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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:33:20 -0700, Airjunkie
wrote in .com: Eric Raymond has been at it for a long time. Check it out at www.solar-flight.com http://www.solar-flight.com/sslink.html Thank you for the information. His achievement is remarkable for the time. Imagine what he could do 17 years later with today's ~40% efficient photovoltaic cells and light weight lithium-ion polymer batteries: The Boeing Company http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/index.html Boeing Spectrolab Terrestrial Solar Cell Surpasses 40 Percent Efficiency ST. LOUIS, Dec. 06, 2006 -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] today announced that Spectrolab, Inc., a wholly-owned subsidiary, has achieved a new world record in terrestrial concentrator solar cell efficiency. Using concentrated sunlight, Spectrolab demonstrated the ability of a photovoltaic cell to convert 40.7 percent of the sun's energy into electricity. The U.S. Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) in Golden, Colo., verified the milestone. "This solar cell performance is the highest efficiency level any photovoltaic device has ever achieved," said Dr. David Lillington, president of Spectrolab. "The terrestrial cell we have developed uses the same technology base as our space-based cells. So, once qualified, they can be manufactured in very high volumes with minimal impact to production flow." High efficiency multijunction cells have a significant advantage over conventional silicon cells in concentrator systems because fewer solar cells are required to achieve the same power output. This technology will continue to dramatically reduce the cost of generating electricity from solar energy as well as the cost of materials used in high-power space satellites and terrestrial applications. "These results are particularly encouraging since they were achieved using a new class of metamorphic semiconductor materials, allowing much greater freedom in multijunction cell design for optimal conversion of the solar spectrum," said Dr. Richard R. King, principal investigator of the high efficiency solar cell research and development effort. "The excellent performance of these materials hints at still higher efficiency in future solar cells." Spectrolab is reducing the cost of solar cell production through research investments and is working with several domestic and international solar concentrator manufacturers on clean, renewable solar energy solutions. Currently, Spectrolab's terrestrial concentrator cells are generating power in a 33-kilowatt full-scale concentrator system in the Australian desert. The company recently signed multi-million dollar contracts for its high efficiency concentrator cells and is anticipating several new contracts in the next few months. Development of the high-efficiency concentrator cell technology was funded by the NREL's High Performance Photovoltaics program and Spectrolab. A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems http://www.boeing.com/ids/index.html is one of the world's largest space and defense businesses. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is a $30.8 billion business. It provides network-centric system solutions to its global military, government, and commercial customers. It is a leading provider of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems; the world's largest military aircraft manufacturer; the world's largest satellite manufacturer; a foremost developer of advanced concepts and technologies; a leading provider of space-based communications; the primary systems integrator for U.S. missile defense; NASA's largest contractor; and a global leader in sustainment solutions and launch services. ### |
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![]() I e-mailed a copy of the article below to Eric Raymond. Here is his reply: Larry, Thanks for the info on Specrolab's progress. I used to be in contact with them, but gave up because their prices were too high. A much more interesting company is SunPower. They are making cheap, one sun cells that are 22% efficient. I plan to use them on my next plane, a two seater. Eric Raymond A two-place photovoltaic powered aircraft will be interesting. Here's some information on SunPower: http://www.sunpowercorp.com http://www.sunpower.com http://www.sunpowercorp.com/commercial/solar_cells.html The SunPower A-300 solar cell is a 125mm, 20% (minimum) efficiency, high-performance, single crystal silicon solar cell. The A-300 cell offers up to 50% more power per unit area than conventional solar cells. It is particularly unique because the metal contacts needed to collect and conduct electricity are located on the back surface – away from the sunlight. This design eliminates the need for reflective metal contacts to be placed on the front of the solar cell, improving our solar cell performance and creating a uniformly smooth, black appearance. ================================================== ======= On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:01:03 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote in : On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:33:20 -0700, Airjunkie wrote in .com: Eric Raymond has been at it for a long time. Check it out at www.solar-flight.com http://www.solar-flight.com/sslink.html Thank you for the information. His achievement is remarkable for the time. Imagine what he could do 17 years later with today's ~40% efficient photovoltaic cells and light weight lithium-ion polymer batteries: The Boeing Company http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/index.html Boeing Spectrolab Terrestrial Solar Cell Surpasses 40 Percent Efficiency ST. LOUIS, Dec. 06, 2006 -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] today announced that Spectrolab, Inc., a wholly-owned subsidiary, has achieved a new world record in terrestrial concentrator solar cell efficiency. Using concentrated sunlight, Spectrolab demonstrated the ability of a photovoltaic cell to convert 40.7 percent of the sun's energy into electricity. The U.S. Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) in Golden, Colo., verified the milestone. "This solar cell performance is the highest efficiency level any photovoltaic device has ever achieved," said Dr. David Lillington, president of Spectrolab. "The terrestrial cell we have developed uses the same technology base as our space-based cells. So, once qualified, they can be manufactured in very high volumes with minimal impact to production flow." High efficiency multijunction cells have a significant advantage over conventional silicon cells in concentrator systems because fewer solar cells are required to achieve the same power output. This technology will continue to dramatically reduce the cost of generating electricity from solar energy as well as the cost of materials used in high-power space satellites and terrestrial applications. "These results are particularly encouraging since they were achieved using a new class of metamorphic semiconductor materials, allowing much greater freedom in multijunction cell design for optimal conversion of the solar spectrum," said Dr. Richard R. King, principal investigator of the high efficiency solar cell research and development effort. "The excellent performance of these materials hints at still higher efficiency in future solar cells." Spectrolab is reducing the cost of solar cell production through research investments and is working with several domestic and international solar concentrator manufacturers on clean, renewable solar energy solutions. Currently, Spectrolab's terrestrial concentrator cells are generating power in a 33-kilowatt full-scale concentrator system in the Australian desert. The company recently signed multi-million dollar contracts for its high efficiency concentrator cells and is anticipating several new contracts in the next few months. Development of the high-efficiency concentrator cell technology was funded by the NREL's High Performance Photovoltaics program and Spectrolab. A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems http://www.boeing.com/ids/index.html is one of the world's largest space and defense businesses. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is a $30.8 billion business. It provides network-centric system solutions to its global military, government, and commercial customers. It is a leading provider of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems; the world's largest military aircraft manufacturer; the world's largest satellite manufacturer; a foremost developer of advanced concepts and technologies; a leading provider of space-based communications; the primary systems integrator for U.S. missile defense; NASA's largest contractor; and a global leader in sustainment solutions and launch services. ### |
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![]() wrote in message ups.com... For a battery-powered car todays practical approach is to have a second engine for backup or as you suggest to generate electricity. When they start selling cars only powered by batteries I'm going to invest in a tow truck business. For aircraft the best use for batteries today is to start the engine. Lange has demonstrated what is possible with today's batteries/motors and while it provides an attractive self-launch the cost and range tradeoffs bring it back into perspective. I think this is a little pessimistic. Critics of the pure electric seem to focus on the "one-car does everything" strategy where it's easier to find faults. The "electrics don't equal engine powered cars" isn't the whole story. Americans, at least, seem to have developed a another strategy for dealing with fuel prices that spike every summer. They own an old, cheap econobox they dust off when gas prices exceed $3. They drive their SUV's only when they need the capacity. This 2-car strategy works for pure electrics (EV's) too. Survey after survey notes that a huge majority of drivers do less than 40 miles a day which is easilly met with EV's. The current best range of 100 miles provides better than a 2:1 safety margin. Economically, the 2- car strategy can be implemented without owning two cars. Just RENT the SUV when you need it. Considering total ownership costs, this is a good deal. Looking at all the rental discounts available to me, I don't plan to replace my SUV. Interestingly, range alone isn't, in itself, a killer. If the battery pack can be recharged in less than 10 minutes, the limited range is less of a factor. The newest Lithium Phospate cells can reach 80% charge in one minute and full charge in 5 minutes. So, if you invest in a tow truck, get one with a diesel generator set. Most likely, popular parking areas will be equipped with charging outlets. I can imagine shopping centers with signs saying, "Shop here while you recharge, FREE!" I can also imagine employers getting tax incentives to provide their workers with access to a recharging station. My bets are on the pure electric vehicle. Bill Daniels |
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![]() "Bill Daniels" bildan@comcast-dot-net wrote in message . .. wrote in message ups.com... For a battery-powered car todays practical approach is to have a second engine for backup or as you suggest to generate electricity. When they start selling cars only powered by batteries I'm going to invest in a tow truck business. For aircraft the best use for batteries today is to start the engine. Lange has demonstrated what is possible with today's batteries/motors and while it provides an attractive self-launch the cost and range tradeoffs bring it back into perspective. I think this is a little pessimistic. Critics of the pure electric seem to focus on the "one-car does everything" strategy where it's easier to find faults. The "electrics don't equal engine powered cars" isn't the whole story. Americans, at least, seem to have developed a another strategy for dealing with fuel prices that spike every summer. They own an old, cheap econobox they dust off when gas prices exceed $3. They drive their SUV's only when they need the capacity. This 2-car strategy works for pure electrics (EV's) too. Survey after survey notes that a huge majority of drivers do less than 40 miles a day which is easilly met with EV's. The current best range of 100 miles provides better than a 2:1 safety margin. Economically, the 2- car strategy can be implemented without owning two cars. Just RENT the SUV when you need it. Considering total ownership costs, this is a good deal. Looking at all the rental discounts available to me, I don't plan to replace my SUV. Interestingly, range alone isn't, in itself, a killer. If the battery pack can be recharged in less than 10 minutes, the limited range is less of a factor. The newest Lithium Phospate cells can reach 80% charge in one minute and full charge in 5 minutes. So, if you invest in a tow truck, get one with a diesel generator set. Most likely, popular parking areas will be equipped with charging outlets. I can imagine shopping centers with signs saying, "Shop here while you recharge, FREE!" I can also imagine employers getting tax incentives to provide their workers with access to a recharging station. My bets are on the pure electric vehicle. In the early 1980's, Mother Earth News made a hybrid car that got 75 miles per gallon. It was a Opel GT (heavy) powered by a jet engine starter motor (inefficient) and a relatively inefficient small gas motor. The gas motor powered the alternator which charged the batteries which ran the electric motor. At the time, they noted that this wasn't new technology, but was the way diesel train engines worked. In 2010, GM will introduce the Chevy Volt, which is pretty much the same concept, which I'm convinced is the way to go. I think this does have promise for airplanes as well. The IC engine and batteries can be place for optimum weight distribution, and the IC engine can be heavilly vibration isolated. |
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On Aug 6, 10:18 am, "Bill Daniels" bildan@comcast-dot-net wrote:
This 2-car strategy works for pure electrics (EV's) too. Survey after survey notes that a huge majority of drivers do less than 40 miles a day which is easilly met with EV's. The current best range of 100 miles provides better than a 2:1 safety margin. Bill Daniels The Tesla Roadster gets 200 miles per charge and takes 3.5 hours to re- charge. It goes 0-60 in something like 3 seconds. You ought to check out Tesla Motors website. It's an incredible, beautiful car though overpriced. Tesla is coming out with a more reasonably priced family-type sedan for their #2 entry to the electric car market. Ricky |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:39:01 -0700, wrote in . com: When they start selling cars only powered by batteries I'm going to invest in a tow truck business. The time has arrived: http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php And a good place to base the new tow truck business is about half way between SF and LA, because that's about how far this $100,000 car will take you. Scroll to the bottom of the page. http://www.teslamotors.com/performan..._batteries.php |
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In rec.aviation.piloting Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
Larry Dighera wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:39:01 -0700, wrote in . com: When they start selling cars only powered by batteries I'm going to invest in a tow truck business. The time has arrived: http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php And a good place to base the new tow truck business is about half way between SF and LA, because that's about how far this $100,000 car will take you. Scroll to the bottom of the page. http://www.teslamotors.com/performan..._batteries.php Or half way between LA and Vegas. The page leads to some "interesting" information. If you cruise around you find claims that the energy usage is 110 Wh/km, and recharge time of about 3.5 hours. 110 Wh/km is about 11.7 kWh for a 100 mile trip. If the charging process is 100% efficient (not in this universe), to recharge in 3.5 hours requires 11.7/3.5, or about 3.3 kW. At 120 V, that's 27.5 A, which is a bit beyond the standard 15 A outlet. At 220 V, that's about 15 A, so you better have a 220 outlet nearby. Elsewhere they talk about recharging in 2 hours with some 70 A system. Anyone out there got a 70 A plus safety factor outlet in their house? They talk about "With your electrical company's incentive pricing factored in, it will cost you roughly 1 cent per mile to drive the Tesla Roadster". Keep in mind they are targeting California. In California, the "incentive pricing" is the more you use, the more you pay per kWh. There is the quote "Single-occupancy access to all carpool lanes". Yeah, true for a while, but all the permits that are ever going to be issued were issued long ago. Just too much hype and inconsistancy for me. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:14:14 -0700, James Sleeman
wrote in . com: On Aug 6, 4:52 am, Larry Dighera wrote: Electrically Powered Ultralight Aircraft It's a nice idea, but realisitically there are too many problems, not the least of which is battery size, weight, cost and safety. I don't really see batteries as a viable in the near future (I struggle to see them as viable in the distant future either). There is a fundamental problem with attempting to power an aircraft with batteries: The propulsion system must not only move the vehicle forward as it would with an automobile, but it must also simultaneously maintain the aircraft's altitude; unlike an automobile that only requires a small amount of energy to overcome rolling and wind resistance once in motion, an aircraft can't coast without losing altitude, so energy demands for powering an aircraft are considerably more demanding than those for an automobile. That said though, I recently saw an article somewhere about an electric car with a stirling engine tucked away in the back (Deam Kamen was in on it somewhere - he's the Segway and fancy wheelchair guy). Are external combustion engines as efficient as internal combustion engines? Stirling engines are great for converting waste heat to mechanical energy, but I'm not sure how appropriate they would be for aircraft propulsion. On the face of it, that seems like not a bad idea for how an electric aircraft could be realistic - take your stirling engine, hook it through a smaller, cheaper, lighter battery system to your electric motor. The battery would act as a buffer (capacitor) to allow for stored energy to do rapid changes in power to the drive motor, the stirling engine would tick away at a constant rate feeding it's generated electricy into the battery. But then, I'm no engineer, I'm sure it's already been discounted as impractical by the real engineers ![]() up so big and heavy to produce the power required that it's useless. The comparative light weight and high energy density of lithium-ion polymer batteries makes them a potential enabling technology for electrically powered aircraft as well as automobiles. All-electric automobiles are entering the marketplace finally: Our customers are a diverse group. All value the sports car performance of zero to 60 mph in about 4 seconds and a top speed of more than 130 mph, but many of our customers are also concerned about the environment. Some, such as customer Stephen Casner, have owned (and still own) older electric vehicles like Toyota's Rav 4. (Read his Tesla Motors blog at: http://cts.vresp.com/c/?TeslaMotors/...4be/9291be675f Early customers include Google Co-Founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page, actor George Clooney, comedian Jay Leno, and California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Tesla Motors continues to take reservations for the 2008 model year Tesla Roadster at our website at: http://cts.vresp.com/c/?TeslaMotors/...4be/d99894a034 Tesla Motors is closing out July with another significant milestone reached: We have now accepted more than 560 reservations for the Tesla Roadster toward an anticipated first year production total of 800 cars. http://cts.vresp.com/c/?TeslaMotors/...4be/4ed5aad61f And if this prototype is an indication, all-electric automobiles will no longer suffer from an image of being slow and impractical: http://www.gizmag.com/go/6104/1/ The 640 bhp MINI QED plug-in EV (link to this article) Page: 1 2 September 4, 2006 Q.E.D. is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum" which means, "which was to be demonstrated". In simple terms, it indicates that something has been definitively proven. Accordingly, the MINI QED electric hybrid is aptly named as it dispels any doubts about the validity of in-hub electric motors playing their part in the future of the automobile. PML FlightLink designs and manufacture electric motors, EV drive systems, joystick controls and controllers and bespoke motors for specialist applications and the MINI QED was built to showcase their expertise in wheelmotors, with a view to supplying what we expect will be a booming market in electric vehicle applications over coming decades. The result is a MINI with four times the horsepower of a Cooper S, supercar performance and the prospects of some very serious EVs in the near future. The QED is a ripper, using four 120kW (160bhp) wheel motors complete with invertors to convert momentum back into stored energy under brakes. With one on each corner you have Ferrari-like power and very controllable independent drive on all four wheels. In the MINI QED, this package offers a 0-60mph time of 3.7 seconds and a 150mph top speed – supercar territory. An on-board petrol engined generator offers enough electrons to run continuously at motorway speeds without depleting the battery, and you can plug it in at night and commute in full electric mode if you wish. As the invertor can exert more retardation than brakes, the conventional disc brakes have been discarded altogether. The inwheel motors and magnesium alloy wheels, and tyres, have a total mass of 24kg. The original assembly mass on the MINI One was 22.5kg. With so little difference in unsprung mass (the brake hubs and discs have been removed), and full regenerative braking, the ride is claimed to be no different. More importantly, it means dynamic management of up to 750Nm torque at each wheel, (3000Nm total) in either direction, to ensure optimum use of available power. The system can also use steering (driver intent and wheel alignment) and vehicle attitude (gyroscopic sensors read pitch, roll and yaw) as inputs to the traction control and vehicle stability systems. Put simply, the vehicle stability system will be the key, and it will ultimately be the software that determines what the optimum tractive distribution will be at each instant - how the energy stored in the 300V 70Amp Hour (700Amp peak) Lithium Polymer battery is most effectively distributed. ...continued: http://www.pmlflightlink.com/archive/news_mini.html So it would appear that high-performance all-electric automobiles are viable and in fact being produced commercially now. And while there have been some successful electrically powered, unmanned aircraft demonstrated, such as those of Dr. Paul MacCready's AeroVironment: http://www.avinc.com/uav_lab_project_detail.php?id=40 Pathfinder flew to 50,567 feet at Edwards September 12, 1995, its first trip to the stratosphere. From there, it was improved and taken to the Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF), Kauai, Hawaii for test flights in 1997, where it flew to 71,504 feet on July 7, before performing a series of science missions over the Hawaiian Islands. http://www.avinc.com/uas_dev_project_detail.php?id=115 Global Observer is the latest development in High Altitude Long Endurance (HALE) UAS, being the first operational configuration able to provide long-dwell stratospheric capability with global range and no latitude restrictions. Global Observer's unique combination of both extreme flight duration and stratospheric operating altitude is designed to deliver advantages in cost, capacity, coverage, flexibility, and reliability that make it a compelling complement to existing satellite, aerial and terrestrial assets. Missions Communications Relay & Remote Sensing Features High-Altitude, Long-Endurance platform (all latitude capability) Endurance/Range Over 1 week/global Payload Up to 400 lbs. for GO-1 & 1,000 lbs for GO-2 Operating Altitude 65,000 feet Expected Availability Within 2 years for U.S. government, with funding There are also manned, commercially produced, electrically powered sailplanes available in the marketplace: http://www.lange-flugzeugbau.de/htm/...tares_20E.html Antares 20E http://lange-flugzeugbau.com/pdf/new...%20issue01.pdf Today Lange Flugzeugbau received the EASA type certification for the Antares 20E. (EASA TCDS No. A.092). This is the first time in the world that an aircraft with an electrical propulsion system receives a type certificate. http://www.nadler.com/public/Antares.html http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/elektroflieger-e.html DG-800E the uncompromised Motor glider with Electro-Power? Here's a little history: http://www.solarimpulse.com/the-hist...tion-en20.html Solar aviation began with reduced models in the 1970s, when affordable solar cells appeared on the market. But it was not until 1980 that the first human flights were realised. In the United States, Paul MacCready's team developed the Gossamer Penguin, which opened up the way for the Solar Challenger. This aircraft, with a maximum power of 2.5 kW, succeeded in crossing the Channel in 1981 and in quick succession covered distances of several hundred kilometres with an endurance of several hours. In Europe, during this time, Günter Rochelt was making his first flights with the Solair 1 fitted with 2500 photovoltaic cells, allowing the generation of a maximum power of 2.2kW. In 1990, the American Eric Raymond crossed the United States with Sunseeker in 21 stages over almost two months. The longest lap was 400 kilometres. The Sunseeker was a solar motor bike-sail plane with a smoothness of 30 for a tare weight of 89 kg and was equipped with solar cells of amorphous silicon. In the middle of the 1990s, several airplanes were built to participate in the "Berblinger" competition. The aim was to be able to go up to an altitude of 450m with the aid of batteries and to maintain a horizontal flight with the power of at least 500W/m2 of solar energy, which corresponds to about half of the power emitted by the sun at midday on the equator. The prize was won in 1996 by Professeur Voit-Nitschmann's team of Stuttgart University, with Icare 2 (25 meters wingspan with a surface of 26 m2 of solar cells.) http://www.solarimpulse.com/the-solar-impulse-en5.html And here's a glimpse at the futu http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...70327e_pr.html MADRID, March 27, 2007 -- In an effort to develop environmentally progressive technologies for aerospace applications, Boeing researchers and industry partners throughout Europe plan to conduct experimental flight tests in 2007 of a manned airplane powered only by a fuel cell and lightweight batteries. The Boeing Fuel Cell Demonstrator Airplane uses a Proton Exchange Membrane (PEM) fuel cell/lithium-ion battery hybrid system to power an electric motor, which is coupled to a conventional propeller. The fuel cell provides all power for the cruise phase of flight. During takeoff and climb, the flight segment that requires the most power, the system draws on lightweight lithium-ion batteries. (Boeing graphic) Photo of Sonex e-flight electric aircraft's electric power plant: http://www.sonexaircraft.com/news/im...light_5947.jpg More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_airplane |
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As the invertor can exert more retardation than brakes, the
conventional disc brakes have been discarded altogether. Oh, boy. Knowing first-hand the reliability of electrical stuff... Dan |
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