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Old September 3rd 07, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jon" wrote in message
ups.com...
I saw a show on PBS a while back where they went back to through the
history of commercial aviation in the US. International airlines do a
much better job in providing a better overall comfort package these
days; but I was amazed to see how much of a comfort it used to be to
fly in the US in the early days.

They showed passengers eating actual meals (a real cut of steak). Now
they're even cutting out the complimentary "meals" on many flights
(under 5 hours, IIRC?). Guess the bailout didn't quite cover the
margin and now we're the cattle sigh...

We passengers have voted to cut out meals in flight. We have done so by
shopping to find the cheapest flights to get from A to B without
consideration of the amenities. Those airlines that provide nice meals have
to charge for them or they will lose money.

Darrell R. Schmidt
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Old September 3rd 07, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y
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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:32:36 -0700, Jon
wrote:
If Acela
could get that ride down to around = 4 hours (time is only part of
the package for me), and airline delays continue, rail mode would be a
winner for me.


Check Amtrak's on-time performance. G
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Old September 3rd 07, 02:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jed" wrote in message
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I've flown several times on Midwest Airlines' Boeing 717 aircraft, and
recently two things happened that I never experienced and hope a pilot
might explain.

First, about an hour into the flight I smelled what seemed like jet engine
exhaust. That lasted for about 10 minutes.

The other was really strange (at least to me). About 30 minutes later, the
First Officer exited the cockpit and walked the length of the cabin with
his arms outstretched, hands running along the overhead compartments. Then
he walked back and re-entered the cockpit; when the door opened I saw that
a flight attendant was waiting inside. He went in; she came out.


Might be a new FA, and he was checking to see if all of the overhead bins
were really secure, after she said they were already checked.
--
Jim in NC


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Old September 3rd 07, 03:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:32:39 -0500, "Jed" wrote:

I've flown several times on Midwest Airlines' Boeing 717 aircraft, and
recently two things happened that I never experienced and hope a pilot might
explain.

First, about an hour into the flight I smelled what seemed like jet engine
exhaust. That lasted for about 10 minutes.

The other was really strange (at least to me). About 30 minutes later, the
First Officer exited the cockpit and walked the length of the cabin with his
arms outstretched, hands running along the overhead compartments. Then he
walked back and re-entered the cockpit; when the door opened I saw that a
flight attendant was waiting inside. He went in; she came out.

Thanks.

Dizzy? after a bj in the er cockpit


Daveb
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Old September 3rd 07, 05:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jed" wrote in :

First, about an hour into the flight I smelled what seemed like jet
engine exhaust. That lasted for about 10 minutes.


Flatulence?

The other was really strange (at least to me). About 30 minutes later,
the First Officer exited the cockpit and walked the length of the cabin
with his arms outstretched, hands running along the overhead
compartments. Then he walked back and re-entered the cockpit; when the
door opened I saw that a flight attendant was waiting inside. He went
in; she came out.


Was the bathroom in the rear of the airplane?
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Old September 4th 07, 04:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I still don't see an explanation for the kerosene smell. I assume nobody
knows?

I've often smelled jet-engine exhaust (mainly the smell of jet fuel) after
landing. I assume this is exhaust partially drawn back into the engine and
the packs, but I don't really know. As for the smell in flight, that would be
unusual, and it's not obvious how exhaust could find its way back into the
packs.
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Old September 4th 07, 08:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 3, 10:33 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
I still don't see an explanation for the kerosene smell. I assume nobody
knows?

I've often smelled jet-engine exhaust (mainly the smell of jet fuel) after
landing. I assume this is exhaust partially drawn back into the engine and
the packs, but I don't really know. As for the smell in flight, that would be
unusual, and it's not obvious how exhaust could find its way back into the
packs.


Just flew into another jet's wake? Not uncommon.

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Old September 5th 07, 06:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Paul kgyy writes:

Just flew into another jet's wake? Not uncommon.


I didn't think of that, it makes sense.

I still have no idea why anyone would smell exhaust in flight, but that has
never happened to me. If I smell it, it's generally on the ground, just after
landing.
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Old September 15th 07, 03:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Paul kgyy writes:

Just flew into another jet's wake? Not uncommon.


I didn't think of that, it makes sense.

I still have no idea



We know.

Bertie
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Old September 15th 07, 03:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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I still don't see an explanation for the kerosene smell. I assume
nobody knows?

I've often smelled jet-engine exhaust (mainly the smell of jet fuel)
after landing. I assume this is exhaust partially drawn back into the
engine and the packs, but I don't really know.


I know you don't. I do, though.




Bertie
 




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