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![]() "SHIVER ME TIMBERS" wrote in message ... Well after watching the Ken Burns series THE WAR ad naseum ad naseum, I thought I'd come into the group today with one of my curious questions. What did your parents, family, etc. do in the big WWII. Mine worked at the Canada Car foundry in what was then called Fort William, Ontario. They were inspectors helping to make Hawker Hurricanes and later other types of figthers including the Curtis Helldiver. How about your folks..... My dad was CO of the 82nd Combat Engineers Battalion. During the invasion his unit built many of the pontoons and other support structures needed for the march to Berlin. My mom was a secretary in Washington DC at one of the government offices. Jim Morris |
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![]() How about your folks..... My father was forced by the fascist regime to fight in Africa and Balcans to conquire the "empire" and , in the progess, he met also with a bullet in the chest. After 8-11-1943 he letf, and joined the resistance against the nazi which had occupied Italy. He knew English language so he was given the radio comunications with the Britts and Americans (whom we will never end to thank for what they did) until the end of the war in april 45.He died in 1972. |
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![]() Guy wrote: How about your folks..... My father was forced by the fascist regime to fight in Africa and Balcans to conquire the "empire" and , in the progess, he met also with a bullet in the chest. After 8-11-1943 he letf, and joined the resistance against the nazi which had occupied Italy. He knew English language so he was given the radio comunications with the Britts and Americans (whom we will never end to thank for what they did) until the end of the war in april 45.He died in 1972. A lot of thanks is due to those who worked the underground in Europe during the war. Your post was truly inspiring. JT |
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![]() "Guy" wrote in message ... How about your folks..... My father was forced by the fascist regime to fight in Africa and Balcans to conquire the "empire" and , in the progess, he met also with a bullet in the chest. After 8-11-1943 he letf, and joined the resistance against the nazi which had occupied Italy. He knew English language so he was given the radio comunications with the Britts and Americans (whom we will never end to thank for what they did) until the end of the war in april 45.He died in 1972. My grandfather was sent by his family in Sicily to the US as skies were darkening in Europe just prior to WW1. He was about 17 and entered through Ellis Island. He rolled cigars in Tampa and farmed in Central Florida for a living. After Pearl Harbor, when Dad tried to convince my grandfather to allow him to enlist in the USAAC, my grandfather resisted angrily. He was concerned that Dad may end up bombing Italy. Dad had seen newsreels at the movies that convinced him that being drafted into the infantry was not for him. My grandfather finally relented and Dad enlisted in the Air Corps. Fortunately he was sent to England rather than Italy. Also, Dad's cousin, who served aboard the USS New York BB-34, jokingly refers to his job as "tailgunner". I have an uncle who served in the Pacific aboard the Escort Carrier USS Tulagi CVE-72. Another uncle served in the 3rd Army directly under Patton and participated in the Battle of the Bulge. I'm trying to find out more about his service history. Dad's uncle (Uncle Sam!) was an armorer at a P-38 base in England and he and Dad were able to occasionally visit while in England. Tony P. |
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![]() "SHIVER ME TIMBERS" wrote in message ... Well after watching the Ken Burns series THE WAR ad naseum ad naseum, I thought I'd come into the group today with one of my curious questions. What did your parents, family, etc. do in the big WWII. Mine worked at the Canada Car foundry in what was then called Fort William, Ontario. They were inspectors helping to make Hawker Hurricanes and later other types of figthers including the Curtis Helldiver. How about your folks..... My father was a Kiwi soldier/driver in the 2nd New Zealand Expeditionary Force and saw action against Rommel in North Africa - Battle of El Alamein and Tobruk then through the Middle East and finally Italy. Witnessed the bombing at Monte Casino. He told me he saw Charles Upham being presented with his VC - one of 2 he received - and said he was the most humble of soldiers and embarrassed by all the pomp and ceremony. My uncle was captured by the Germans in Crete and sent to work on farms in Poland. A talented musician, he received a piano accordion that was sent to their prison camp by the Pope to boost morale. It was lost during their release at the end of WW2, but returned to him about ten years ago. He recently returned to the village where he had been a farm labourer during the war. An elderly woman ran up to him and cried out "Cliff ! ... Cliff !" Incredible that she still recognised him after 50 years absence. My mother, aged in her late teens, lived in Melbourne, Australia. In her spare time she was a Concert Party dancer entertaining troops who were on leave. She met my father on his way back to NZ after the war. Her father was a radio operator who assisted Charles Kingsford Smith with communications when he flew around Australia. I very much regret not tracking down my grandfather before he died. Cheers, John |
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Well after watching the Ken Burns series THE WAR ad naseum ad naseum, I thought I'd come into the group today with one of my curious questions. What did your parents, family, etc. do in the big WWII. Mine worked at the Canada Car foundry in what was then called Fort William, Ontario. They were inspectors helping to make Hawker Hurricanes and later other types of figthers including the Curtis Helldiver. How about your folks..... I must have some young parents. Both my parents were still in school. Dad graduated high school in 1948, and joined the USAF about 1950. Dad was in the pipeline to go to Korea as an F84 pilot when the Armistice happened. |
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jour ... How about your folks..... I must have some young parents. Both my parents were still in school. Dad graduated high school in 1948, and joined the USAF about 1950. Dad was in the pipeline to go to Korea as an F84 pilot when the Armistice happened. My father was over 30 when he was drafted into the Marines in mid- 1943, I was born in 1947. Many of my friends' fathers were much younger, so it was their grandfather that fought in WWII. All of my uncles on both sides of my family were WWII vets. One was wounded in the Battle of the Bulge, all the others were in the Navy. My Uncle Joe was the 20mm gunner on the bow of the USS Massachusetts. As to Korea, my father's best friend from the Marines decided to stay in the active reserve and tried unsuccessfully to convince my father to join with him. Turns out that Dad was "smarter", as his friend was called up in the early days of Korea. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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David Hartung added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... How about your folks..... I must have some young parents. Both my parents were still in school. Dad graduated high school in 1948, and joined the USAF about 1950. Dad was in the pipeline to go to Korea as an F84 pilot when the Armistice happened. My father was over 30 when he was drafted into the Marines in mid- 1943, I was born in 1947. Many of my friends' fathers were much younger, so it was their grandfather that fought in WWII. All of my uncles on both sides of my family were WWII vets. One was wounded in the Battle of the Bulge, all the others were in the Navy. My Uncle Joe was the 20mm gunner on the bow of the USS Massachusetts. As to Korea, my father's best friend from the Marines decided to stay in the active reserve and tried unsuccessfully to convince my father to join with him. Turns out that Dad was "smarter", as his friend was called up in the early days of Korea. My Dad's dad served in the Marines during WWI. To my knowledge, he never saw combat. My Mom's dad was a Lutheran school principle, and my guess is that he was on the high side of 40 in 1941. He also had, at that time, 5 kids. I'm not certain if that had any bearing on his service status or not. |
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jour ... HEMI-Powered wrote: My father was over 30 when he was drafted into the Marines in mid- 1943, I was born in 1947. Many of my friends' fathers were much younger, so it was their grandfather that fought in WWII. All of my uncles on both sides of my family were WWII vets. One was wounded in the Battle of the Bulge, all the others were in the Navy. My Uncle Joe was the 20mm gunner on the bow of the USS Massachusetts. My Dad's dad served in the Marines during WWI. WWI?! Wow, he must've been even older than my father, who was born in 1913 and passed away in 1998. To my knowledge, he never saw combat. My Mom's dad was a Lutheran school principle, and my guess is that he was on the high side of 40 in 1941. He also had, at that time, 5 kids. I'm not certain if that had any bearing on his service status or not. If you really meant WWII, yes, I believe that the draft extended to about 42, although I didn't think the Marines took men that old. 30-ish is VERY old to withstand the rigors of WWII-style Boot Camp, which was 11 weeks long, and in those days, DIs could actually hit a boot. Not to injure them, of course, but they might cold cock an errant trainee. And, in them days, they definitely marched boots in either the desert areas of San Diego, where my father went, or the swamps of Parris Island with the proverbial bucket over their head. Sometime in the late 1950s/early 1960s the corporal punishment was banned as was a bucket on the head after several boots fell in a hole in the Parris Island swamp and drowned. I also remember my father telling stories even as I was a young child in the early 1950s to wit "we have only 11 weeks to train you to fight an enemy that's been training for 20 or 30 years. And, in those days, just about everyone also went to Infantry training at Camp Pendleton. As you probably know, ALL Marines, regardless of actual training specialty - my father was a "6x6" 2 1/2 ton truck driver - were riflemen. The reason he wound up in Shrier's patrol that assaulted Mt. Suribachi is that there was little for a truck driver to do prior to it's being taken. AFAIK, he then was assigned to assist the Navy Sea Bees to build runways and a transportation system. I have documented proof that he was also still on Iwo on 21May45, two months after the island was secured. He first supported Marines on occupation duty and later Army personnel. I also remember his stories that into at least April, maybe May, he would occasionally get sniped at driving on cat eyes at night. -- HP, aka Jerry |
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![]() "HEMI-Powered" wrote in message ... David Hartung added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... HEMI-Powered wrote: My father was over 30 when he was drafted into the Marines in mid- 1943, I was born in 1947. Many of my friends' fathers were much younger, so it was their grandfather that fought in WWII. All of my uncles on both sides of my family were WWII vets. One was wounded in the Battle of the Bulge, all the others were in the Navy. My Uncle Joe was the 20mm gunner on the bow of the USS Massachusetts. My Dad's dad served in the Marines during WWI. WWI?! Wow, he must've been even older than my father, who was born in 1913 and passed away in 1998. To my knowledge, he never saw combat. My Mom's dad was a Lutheran school principle, and my guess is that he was on the high side of 40 in 1941. He also had, at that time, 5 kids. I'm not certain if that had any bearing on his service status or not. If you really meant WWII, yes, I believe that the draft extended to about 42, although I didn't think the Marines took men that old. 30-ish is VERY old to withstand the rigors of WWII-style Boot Camp, which was 11 weeks long, and in those days, DIs could actually hit a boot. Not to injure them, of course, but they might cold cock an errant trainee. And, in them days, they definitely marched boots in either the desert areas of San Diego, where my father went, or the swamps of Parris Island with the proverbial bucket over their head. Sometime in the late 1950s/early 1960s the corporal punishment was banned as was a bucket on the head after several boots fell in a hole in the Parris Island swamp and drowned. I also remember my father telling stories even as I was a young child in the early 1950s to wit "we have only 11 weeks to train you to fight an enemy that's been training for 20 or 30 years. And, in those days, just about everyone also went to Infantry training at Camp Pendleton. As you probably know, ALL Marines, regardless of actual training specialty - my father was a "6x6" 2 1/2 ton truck driver - were riflemen. The reason he wound up in Shrier's patrol that assaulted Mt. Suribachi is that there was little for a truck driver to do prior to it's being taken. AFAIK, he then was assigned to assist the Navy Sea Bees to build runways and a transportation system. I have documented proof that he was also still on Iwo on 21May45, two months after the island was secured. He first supported Marines on occupation duty and later Army personnel. I also remember his stories that into at least April, maybe May, he would occasionally get sniped at driving on cat eyes at night. -- HP, aka Jerry Ooops, forgot about my 90 year old uncle in southern Michigan. He was in the Army from 1935'ish to 1938'ish, stationed in Hawaii, Honorably Discharged, and was drafted back into the Army in 1942 to 1945. He trained in Southern California and served in several locations in the South Pacific. He still has his Campaign hat from his first tour in the Army, saw it 3 weeks ago. |
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