Landing fee at SJC? Are we now so far??

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:50:27 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
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On Nov 5, 9:29 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:26:10 -0800, ThomasH wrote
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Maybe some of you know what is going on with SJC?

You'll find two Transient Parking areas depicted on this airport
diagram:http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0711/00693AD.PDF
Presumably there is not charge for tie down there.

Unless something has changed you still pay the $40 for those.

It would seem that those transient parking areas would be governed by
CFR Title 14, Part 150 regulations. Perhaps the OP should do some
research concerning what has been approved for those parking areas.

SJC is a
very GA unfriendly airport (the county figures you should be at RHV).

As long as they abide by FAA regulations, I suppose they are within
their right.

I once landed at SJC to fly another plane. I pulled plane #1 out of
its tie down spot and put plane #2 into the spot while I went out to
fly plane #1. When I got back there were two security trucks sitting
there with their lights flashing. They said there were getting ready
to tow plane #2. They keep track of what plane is in which spot.

-Robert

You're saying that the airport operator (SJ county?) does not permit
aircraft, other than the one paying tie-down fees for a specific spot,
to park in rented parking spots?

It would be interesting to see the rental agreement that authorizes
them to tow "offending" aircraft.

On Nov 5, 11:04 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

As long as they abide by FAA regulations, I suppose they are within
their right.

They can descriminate against GA by charging high fees. The FAA
generally doesn't prohibit that.

You're saying that the airport operator (SJ county?) does not permit
aircraft, other than the one paying tie-down fees for a specific spot,
to park in rented parking spots?

That is very much true. The tie down is associated with the N number

-Robert

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:23:37 -0000, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote in
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On Nov 5, 11:04 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

As long as they abide by FAA regulations, I suppose they are within
their right.

They can descriminate against GA by charging high fees. The FAA
generally doesn't prohibit that.

There is something immoral about using public AIP funds to construct
an airport at which a pilot MUST pay a private corporation for the
right to use what his tax dollars have built.

You're saying that the airport operator (SJ county?) does not permit
aircraft, other than the one paying tie-down fees for a specific spot,
to park in rented parking spots?

That is very much true. The tie down is associated with the N number

-Robert

It would seem that the firm operating the airport is unnecessarily
exposing itself to potential damage liabilities as a result of
implementing that policy, but I suppose the lease agreement forces the
lessee to give up those rights.

On 05-Nov-07 10:50, Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Nov 5, 9:29 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:26:10 -0800, ThomasH wrote

Maybe some of you know what is going on with SJC?
You'll find two Transient Parking areas depicted on this airport
diagram:http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0711/00693AD.PDF
Presumably there is not charge for tie down there.

Unless something has changed you still pay the $40 for those. SJC is a
very GA unfriendly airport (the county figures you should be at RHV).
I once landed at SJC to fly another plane. I pulled plane #1 out of
its tie down spot and put plane #2 into the spot while I went out to
fly plane #1. When I got back there were two security trucks sitting
there with their lights flashing. They said there were getting ready
to tow plane #2. They keep track of what plane is in which spot.

-Robert

As my friend brought proudly his Lancair to SJC for the
first time, I was walking with him to the parking spot
with a camera to shoot his preflight and later the departure.
We sat on the bench (with is daughter who lives here now) in
front of Jet Center main entrance and waited for takeoff on
the 29er. One of the tracks stopped, well a Porsche Cayenne
rather, and a guy was complaining about my camera. I told
him that I fly here since 1996 and that I sure have 2-3
thousands of images of the vicinity in all sorts of aviation
related situations, she added that she waits for "daddy for
takeoff," and they soften up and left us.

I shot a lot from the air, everywhere. My images are even
on the 16R DVD. I was never ever before bothered by someone
because of photographing aircraft, pilots or personal.
This incident was to me very symbolic toward what SJC has
become, maybe even to the post 9-11 syndrome with safety
paranoia.

Thomas

Larry Dighera wrote in
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You'll find two Transient Parking areas depicted on this airport
diagram: http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0711/00693AD.PDF
Presumably there is not charge for tie down there.

One of the Transient Parking Areas at the SJ Jet Center, the other is
at ACM. I've heard that ACM is also owned by the Jet Center (someone
please verify or refute).


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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:32:20 -0000, John Godwin
wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote in
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You'll find two Transient Parking areas depicted on this airport
diagram: http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0711/00693AD.PDF
Presumably there is not charge for tie down there.

One of the Transient Parking Areas at the SJ Jet Center, the other is
at ACM.

That would seem to be correct. If so, there is no free transient
parking at KSJC, unless you purchase fuel.

Larry Dighera wrote in
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That would seem to be correct. If so, there is no free transient
parking at KSJC, unless you purchase fuel.

.... at some of the highest prices around. Better go to either RHV or PAO.

Larry Dighera wrote in
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:26:10 -0800, ThomasH wrote
in :

Maybe some of you know what is going on with SJC?

You'll find two Transient Parking areas depicted on this airport
diagram: http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0711/00693AD.PDF
Presumably there is not charge for tie down there.


The only transient parking at SJC is at either the Jet Center or ACM
Aviation. One guy, A. C. Markula (one of the early big shots at Apple
Computer) owns ACM Aviation and 1/3 of the Jet Center. There is no
difference is tie down or fuel prices. At one FAA Wings safety seminars,
they even admitted as much, stating that the Jet Center called ACM every
morning to set the fuel price.

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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On Nov 5, 10:26 am, ThomasH wrote:
Hi:

my friend from SoCal complained several times that every
each time he lands in SJC to visit us, even if it is for
15min only to make a pickup, as soon he taxis to transient
parking at the Jet Center, they charge him $40. I called
Jet Center, but they decline to give any answer.

I do not fly from SJC anymore. For 6-7 years this was my
home base, I used to land on the old 30R and later on 29
literally hundreds of times, and this kind of news surprises
me. Virtually the entire general aviation, small piton
anyway, has been evicted and pushed away from SJC since,
but there are still some remaining hangars with small
aircraft. Maybe some of you know what is going on with
SJC? Is it true with the $40, or is it merely a Jet Center
rip-off?

Thomas


Its laughable to see the country club crowd moan about being ripped
off by private companies, I just can't stop the tears. Is there a
Paypal account I can contribute to, and help heal the pain ??