Ferry Pilot Down

It appears Bertie doesn't like you - based on his past posts (haven't read
them all) I'd guess it is because you have political views that differ
from
his, he thinks you're a bigot because of views you have expressed with
regard to illegal immigration, and you use employment practices that
appear
to be needlessly callous. (Again - all just guesses.)

Wrong assumptions across the board. Bertie and I got along just fine until
I called him out on his knee-jerk, automated, inane, one-word nonsensical
responses to MX's every post.

When I pointed out that he had become a bigger liability to this group than
his target, he became my rump-ranger.

But, again, that's why the kill file was invented. I haven't seen any of
his posts in many weeks, and it's truly restored the utility of this group.
I heartily recommend it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

RL Anderson wrote:
Hi Bertie,
snip
You may be a sim pilot, or a "pattern pilot" or a non-pilot who may have
an interest in aviation. Before you start bitching out guys like Jay,
pull your head out of your ass and understand how airplanes, and
aviation, work.

Bwaaaaahahahahaaaaaa!!!! (my spelling, not Bertie's)

Are you really idiotic enough to not recognize the amount of aviation
experience and knowledge he has demonstrated here?

Rich Ahrens wrote in
ouse.com:

RL Anderson wrote:
Hi Bertie,
snip
You may be a sim pilot, or a "pattern pilot" or a non-pilot who may
have an interest in aviation. Before you start bitching out guys
like Jay, pull your head out of your ass and understand how
airplanes, and aviation, work.

Bwaaaaahahahahaaaaaa!!!! (my spelling, not Bertie's)

Are you really idiotic enough to not recognize the amount of aviation
experience and knowledge he has demonstrated here?


Apparently.


Bertie

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:42:50 -0600, Rich Ahrens
wrote:

Are you really idiotic enough to not recognize the amount of aviation
experience and knowledge he has demonstrated here?

That is rather strange...

Bertie knows how an airplane files, and not because he read a book.

It takes all types to make a world, but we have to look through the
personalities to make it all work. There are lots of strong
personalities here. Some work ATC, others are current or retired
airline pilots, still others are corporate or ferry pilots, even a few
airshow pilots. They ALL have strong opinions and/or their own world
views. Some are quite tactful, others... not so much.

Spam canners like me can learn from all of them.

How do you get a filing cabinet that big?

Jim



Bertie knows how an airplane files,

Rich Ahrens wrote:
RL Anderson wrote:
Hi Bertie,
snip
You may be a sim pilot, or a "pattern pilot" or a non-pilot who may
have an interest in aviation. Before you start bitching out guys
like Jay, pull your head out of your ass and understand how
airplanes, and aviation, work.

Bwaaaaahahahahaaaaaa!!!! (my spelling, not Bertie's)

Are you really idiotic enough to not recognize the amount of aviation
experience and knowledge he has demonstrated here?

If Bertie had never posted anything at all to Usenet then I would not have
been any the poorer in aviation knowledge. I've not found any knowledge or
advice that was of use to me in any of his posts.

By comparison, Dudley Henriques has posted helpful information and views
that I haven't encountered anywhere else.

And Jay Honeck's postings have been pretty average, from my perspective.
The usual mix of topical and non-topical, self-serving and non-self-
serving. Pretty average Jay, er, Joe.

Lastly you, Rich, seem to be taking pains to attack anyone who dare attack
or posts their displeasure Bertie. Well, here's another target for you.

Jim Logajan wrote in
:

Rich Ahrens wrote:
RL Anderson wrote:
Hi Bertie,
snip
You may be a sim pilot, or a "pattern pilot" or a non-pilot who may
have an interest in aviation. Before you start bitching out guys
like Jay, pull your head out of your ass and understand how
airplanes, and aviation, work.

Bwaaaaahahahahaaaaaa!!!! (my spelling, not Bertie's)

Are you really idiotic enough to not recognize the amount of aviation
experience and knowledge he has demonstrated here?

If Bertie had never posted anything at all to Usenet then I would not
have been any the poorer in aviation knowledge. I've not found any
knowledge or advice that was of use to me in any of his posts.

By comparison, Dudley Henriques has posted helpful information and
views that I haven't encountered anywhere else.



Hmm.


And Jay Honeck's postings have been pretty average, from my
perspective. The usual mix of topical and non-topical, self-serving
and non-self- serving. Pretty average Jay, er, Joe.


Hmm hmm.


Lastly you, Rich, seem to be taking pains to attack anyone who dare
attack or posts their displeasure Bertie. Well, here's another target
for you.



You like attacking people? That seems a bit, nasty, for want of a beter
word.



Bertie

Jim Logajan wrote:
Lastly you, Rich, seem to be taking pains to attack anyone who dare attack
or posts their displeasure Bertie. Well, here's another target for you.

Hardly. He's a big boy and can handle it. I'm simply amused by the
ignorance of some folks who confuse his antics in dealing with loons and
idiots with an imagined lack of aeronautic knowledge, and occasionally
feel the urge to mock them for it. Not to mention I find some of the
same people obnoxious that he does (Jay, for example). I've even
introduced him to a few of them because I simply don't have the time and
patience to whack them the way he does.

On 2008-02-16, Rich Ahrens wrote:
Are you really idiotic enough to not recognize the amount of aviation
experience and knowledge he has demonstrated here?

I recognize that he's someone who I would ordinarily listen to with great
respect. Unfortunately, he's lost that respect with his incessant trolling
and incivility. I didn't like dropping him in my killfile...but the group
has been a lot more useful to me since I did so.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!)
Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390

Jay Maynard wrote in
:

On 2008-02-16, Rich Ahrens wrote:
Are you really idiotic enough to not recognize the amount of aviation
experience and knowledge he has demonstrated here?

I recognize that he's someone who I would ordinarily listen to with
great respect. Unfortunately, he's lost that respect with his
incessant trolling and incivility. I didn't like dropping him in my
killfile...but the group has been a lot more useful to me since I did
so.

Oh well, easy come...

Bertie