Ferry Pilot Down

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:mI6sj.29479$9j6.4199@attbi_s22:

Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at
Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North
Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland.




New low for you there Jay.


Bertie



Hi Bertie,

I have watched your posts for quite a few years. WTF gives you the
balls to bitch out Jay for posting that NWPilot mentioned to him, on a
phone call, that one of his "compadres" went down on a ferry flight over
the North Atlantic? NWPilot, and a very small group of pilots, perform
a very vital service to the aviation community. I am not a pilot
myself. I am a retired US Air Force enlisted communications puke who
had job responsibilities that took me into the worlds of the "bus
driver" and the "fighter jock". However, I do know a whole ****load of
civilian pilots, of various qualification levels as well. In fact, I
have a close family member who is a "four striper" on a major US
airline. Because of this, I have a pretty good outlook on the military
and civilian pilot communities. However, in the case of NWPilot and his
"compadres", it takes a very special group of pilots to ferry "small"
aircraft over the two big "ponds" off the east and west coasts of the
North American continent. The North Atlantic, like the North Pacific,
can be fatal to anyone who "screws the pooch". It appears, that in this
case, a mechanical failure may have occurred and the airplane went down,
taking the pilot with it. However, none of us in this NG knows the
exact details of this accident and probably will never know.

You may be a sim pilot, or a "pattern pilot" or a non-pilot who may have
an interest in aviation. Before you start bitching out guys like Jay,
pull your head out of your ass and understand how airplanes, and
aviation, work. For the record, I have not been anywhere in the State
of Iowa since May 1988. I have never been to Iowa City and have not
stayed at Jay's establishment. He, and Mary, bust their asses off to
run a great little business. It is great that they are both airplane
owners and pilots. As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious
at the minimum, and criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you
exhibit a stupidity only exhibited by various US politicians. In this
particular case, Jay was passing on what he was told on a phone call to
the people who frequent this NG. Before you decide to bitch Jay (or
anyone else for that matter) out do your ****ing homework!!! I have
been lurking, and posting, in NGs since the mid 90s. You, and MX, are
just as bad, if not worse, than the "MI-5 Guy". Do yourself a favor and
get your **** together. You, and MX, will become more credible as a result.

Later

Rick

RL Anderson wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:mI6sj.29479$9j6.4199@attbi_s22:

Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at
Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North
Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland.




New low for you there Jay.


Bertie



Hi Bertie,

I have watched your posts for quite a few years. WTF gives you the
balls to bitch out Jay for posting that NWPilot mentioned to him, on a
phone call, that one of his "compadres" went down on a ferry flight
over the North Atlantic? NWPilot, and a very small group of pilots,
perform a very vital service to the aviation community. I am not a
pilot myself. I am a retired US Air Force enlisted communications
puke who had job responsibilities that took me into the worlds of the
"bus driver" and the "fighter jock". However, I do know a whole
****load of civilian pilots, of various qualification levels as well.
In fact, I have a close family member who is a "four striper" on a
major US airline. Because of this, I have a pretty good outlook on
the military and civilian pilot communities. However, in the case of
NWPilot and his "compadres", it takes a very special group of pilots
to ferry "small" aircraft over the two big "ponds" off the east and
west coasts of the North American continent. The North Atlantic, like
the North Pacific, can be fatal to anyone who "screws the pooch". It
appears, that in this case, a mechanical failure may have occurred and
the airplane went down, taking the pilot with it. However, none of us
in this NG knows the exact details of this accident and probably will
never know.

You may be a sim pilot, or a "pattern pilot" or a non-pilot who may
have an interest in aviation. Before you start bitching out guys like
Jay, pull your head out of your ass and understand how airplanes, and
aviation, work. For the record, I have not been anywhere in the State
of Iowa since May 1988. I have never been to Iowa City and have not
stayed at Jay's establishment. He, and Mary, bust their asses off to
run a great little business. It is great that they are both airplane
owners and pilots. As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious
at the minimum, and criminal at the maximum.


Happy to have entertained you then.


If you are a pilot, you
exhibit a stupidity only exhibited by various US politicians. In
this particular case, Jay was passing on what he was told on a phone
call to the people who frequent this NG. Before you decide to bitch
Jay (or anyone else for that matter) out do your ****ing homework!!!
I have been lurking, and posting, in NGs since the mid 90s. You, and
MX, are just as bad, if not worse, than the "MI-5 Guy". Do yourself a
favor and get your **** together. You, and MX, will become more
credible as a result.


Fantastic. You go right on ahead and fly like he tells you!




Bertie

NWPilot, and a very small group of pilots, perform
a very vital service to the aviation community.

Very Vital Service

it takes a very special group of pilots to ferry "small"
aircraft over the two big "ponds" off the east and west coasts of the
North American continent.

Yea, we have balls larger then an elephant and very strong mental
ability's to keep it cool under the pressure flying aircraft with
extensively modified
fuel systems in over weight conditions over unfavorable terrain in
marginal weather conditions. Then doing an ILS or some other approach
after being cooped up for 15 hours or more.

The North Atlantic, like the North Pacific,
can be fatal to anyone who "screws the pooch". It appears, that in this
case, a mechanical failure may have occurred and the airplane went down,
taking the pilot with it. However, none of us in this NG knows the
exact details of this accident and probably will never know.

Correct, Unless they fish the plane out and some times they do.

I have never been to Iowa City and have not
stayed at Jay's establishment. He, and Mary, bust their asses off to
run a great little business.

Yes, they do and I patronize it when ever possible.

I thank Jay for posting usually ditching's such as this are not even a
headline on a newspaper.

Thanks again jay ignore the childish flamers.

wrote in news:447d6879-b1c4-404d-a5d5-
:

NWPilot, and a very small group of pilots, perform
a very vital service to the aviation community.

Very Vital Service

it takes a very special group of pilots to ferry "small"
aircraft over the two big "ponds" off the east and west coasts of the
North American continent.

Yea, we have balls larger then an elephant and very strong mental
ability's to keep it cool under the pressure flying aircraft with
extensively modified
fuel systems in over weight conditions over unfavorable terrain in
marginal weather conditions. Then doing an ILS or some other approach
after being cooped up for 15 hours or more.

The North Atlantic, like the North Pacific,
can be fatal to anyone who "screws the pooch". It appears, that in
this
case, a mechanical failure may have occurred and the airplane went
down,
taking the pilot with it. However, none of us in this NG knows the
exact details of this accident and probably will never know.

Correct, Unless they fish the plane out and some times they do.

I have never been to Iowa City and have not
stayed at Jay's establishment. He, and Mary, bust their asses off to
run a great little business.

Yes, they do and I patronize it when ever possible.

I thank Jay for posting usually ditching's such as this are not even a
headline on a newspaper.

Thanks again jay ignore the childish flamers.

Yeah, one of whom was doing it long before GPS or loran...



Bertie

As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum, and
criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a stupidity only
exhibited by various US politicians.

Please do not feed the trolls... As much as I appreciate your defense, I
think it's safe to say that any real pilots here have long since discovered
that "Bertie" is nothing but a troll -- and responding to him in any way
only feeds his mental illness.

Worse, the kill file I've set up only zaps HIS message -- not your
response(s). This means I must read his drivel in order to view your
post -- something that truly is not worth anyone's time.

I know it's hard to resist the temptation, but the only way to make posters
like Bertie go away is to give them no response. Sooner or later they find
another playground to terrorize.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum, and
criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a stupidity only
exhibited by various US politicians.

Please do not feed the trolls... As much as I appreciate your defense, I
think it's safe to say that any real pilots here have long since discovered
that "Bertie" is nothing but a troll -- and responding to him in any way
only feeds his mental illness.

Nah, Bertie is an opinionated, crusty, sometimes informative, sometimes
entertaining, sometimes annoying, old fart that doesn't suffer fools
easily, but definately is not a troll.

Like others that have achieved this status, he could give a crap less
what anyone thinks of him and just says what he feels without having
the need to justify it.

WYSIWYG.

--
Jim Pennino

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wrote in :

Jay Honeck wrote:
As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum,
and criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a
stupidity only exhibited by various US politicians.

Please do not feed the trolls... As much as I appreciate your
defense, I think it's safe to say that any real pilots here have long
since discovered that "Bertie" is nothing but a troll -- and
responding to him in any way only feeds his mental illness.

Nah, Bertie is an opinionated, crusty, sometimes informative,
sometimes entertaining, sometimes annoying, old fart that doesn't
suffer fools easily, but definately is not a troll.

Like others that have achieved this status, he could give a crap less
what anyone thinks of him and just says what he feels without having
the need to justify it.

Thenkew. though i object to the crusty part. I do use a loofah as often as
I can.


Bertie

Nah, Bertie is an opinionated, crusty, sometimes informative, sometimes
entertaining, sometimes annoying, old fart that doesn't suffer fools
easily, but definately is not a troll.

You're definition of troll is certainly unusual.

Anyone who responds with a knee-jerk "fujkwit!" to every, single post that
is made by another poster is, by definition, a troll.

Anyone who responds with personal attacks and lies for the sole purpose of
stirring controversy and provoking a response is, by definition, a troll.

Any aviation contributions Bertie may make here are completely incidental to
this sad fact. His mental illness (and that's what it is -- let's call a
spade a spade) has negated any positive impact he may have once been able to
contribute.

It's truly a shame, but that's why the kill file was invented.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:hXgtj.34658$yE1.25967@attbi_s21:

Nah, Bertie is an opinionated, crusty, sometimes informative,
sometimes entertaining, sometimes annoying, old fart that doesn't
suffer fools easily, but definately is not a troll.

You're definition of troll is certainly unusual.

Your's is asinine.

Anyone who responds with a knee-jerk "fujkwit!" to every, single post
that is made by another poster is, by definition, a troll.

Nope.
The definition of a troll is a poster who posts strictly to elicit a
particular response. In my case I troll to reveal people for who they
really are without regard to how it may make me appear. I've found it to
be an interesting,educational and productive exercise for all concerned.
Once I hace a trollee shrieking, I can generally expose ever more of his
idiocy or hypocrisy simply by pushing all the right buttons. I'm real
good at it too, which of course, exposes even more buttons.
People that don't have those buttons or who are smart enough to realise
that they do have them, but keep them properly under control, are almost
untrollable. Well, I could probably still troll them, but I'm not that
energetic. Anyhow, there are lots of people here like that and they know
it. It takes about three posts, maybe a bit more to spot the difference
and it usually takes even fewer to spot someone who has more buttons
than an Airbus.

Guess which category you fit into?

Anyone who responds with personal attacks and lies for the sole
purpose of stirring controversy and provoking a response is, by
definition, a troll.

Actually, I only respond with personal attacks to assholes, as anyone
can see.
With Bertie, you get exactly what you deserve. No more or less.
And, I'm not a democracy.



Any aviation contributions Bertie may make here are completely
incidental to this sad fact. His mental illness (and that's what it
is -- let's call a spade a spade) has negated any positive impact he
may have once been able to contribute.


Well, in fact, the FAA would disagree with you, fjukkwit. now there's a
surprise, eh?

As to your little campaign to get me out of here so you can go on
posting your crap unmolested, well, good luck with that! I'll watch with
interest!

Oh wait! You can't read this! Looks like I just wasted two minutes
typing this up....

Bwawhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhhhwawhahwhhahwh!


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Once I hace a trollee shrieking, I can generally expose ever more of his
idiocy or hypocrisy simply by pushing all the right buttons.

Mxsmanic was your target, right? Thanks to your magnanimous (or self-
centered) gesture everyone but the target is shrieking. All buttons, right
and wrong, appear to have been pushed.

Good work - I think your work here is done! :-)