Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR

On Feb 15, 9:32*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:043b8c97-e1d9-463a-9d5f-
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On Feb 15, 12:31*am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.

*Only true as long as you don't bust airspace or aircraft operating
limitations...

Well, neither one has much to do with a vertical speed limit.


A dive which goes over Vne?

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote in
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On Feb 15, 9:32*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in
news:043b8c97-e1d9-463a-9d5f-
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On Feb 15, 12:31*am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR
flight.

*Only true as long as you don't bust airspace or aircraft operating
limitations...

Well, neither one has much to do with a vertical speed limit.


A dive which goes over Vne?


Well, yes, flight testing for instance. VNE is 10% below a tested dive
speed. Alos, as I posted before, some airplanes had an emergency dive
speed. Vd. I'd have to look it up to see, though. In any case, it's not a
legal limit, it;'s a design limitation.



Bertie

WingFlaps writes:

Only true as long as you don't bust airspace or aircraft operating
limitations...

Are there climb/descent rate restrictions for specific airspaces, for VFR
flights operating without ATC restrictions?

I recall that if ATC tells you to climb or descend, you need to be able to do
so at at least 500 fpm, although I don't remember where I read this. However,
if you're VFR in, say, Class B, and ATC has _not_ directed you specifically to
climb or descend, and you decide to change altitude yourself, is there any
regulatory constraint on the rate that you must use?

Mxsmanic wrote in
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WingFlaps writes:

Only true as long as you don't bust airspace or aircraft operating
limitations...

Are there climb/descent rate restrictions for specific airspaces, for
VFR flights operating without ATC restrictions?


In your world? Nope.

Bertie

On Feb 14, 9:16*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

However,
if you're VFR in, say, Class B, and ATC has _not_ directed you specifically to
climb or descend, and ******you decide to change altitude yourself*****

Say, what? You have just committed an airspace violation and the
VATSIM controllers will remotely detonate your aircraft and kill all
onboard. You will be black-balled and not permitted to fly MSFS
again. Then what would you do?

--Jeff

JB wrote:
On Feb 14, 9:16 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
However,
if you're VFR in, say, Class B, and ATC has _not_ directed you specifically to
climb or descend, and ******you decide to change altitude yourself*****

Say, what? You have just committed an airspace violation and the
VATSIM controllers will remotely detonate your aircraft and kill all
onboard. You will be black-balled and not permitted to fly MSFS
again. Then what would you do?

--Jeff

Actually, from a quick look at Anthony's Guest Book on his website, it
seems that the VATSIM forum is tired of him as well.

On Feb 15, 12:31*am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.


Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.


Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Cheers


Please then for my benefit point me to such a regulation.

In rec.aviation.student Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.

Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Please then for my benefit point me to such a regulation.

Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about 25,000fpm
(needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in terms of
indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many flights would
need to worry about this limitation.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software

Michael Ash wrote in
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In rec.aviation.student Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR
flight.

Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Please then for my benefit point me to such a regulation.

Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about
25,000fpm (needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in
terms of indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many
flights would need to worry about this limitation.

Or climb!


But in fact this can be waived and very frequently is.


Bertie