Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR

On Feb 16, 4:20 am, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"WingFlaps" wrote in message

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When NORDO you cannot ascend or descend into
controlled space except as part of a flight plan.


If the aircraft radio fails in flight under VFR, the pilot in command
may operate that aircraft and land if--

(i) Weather conditions are at or above basic VFR weather minimums;

(ii) Visual contact with the tower is maintained; and

(iii) A clearance to land is received.

"WingFlaps" wrote in message
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On Feb 16, 4:20 am, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
"WingFlaps" wrote in message

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When NORDO you cannot ascend or descend into
controlled space except as part of a flight plan.


If the aircraft radio fails in flight under VFR, the pilot in command
may operate that aircraft and land if--

(i) Weather conditions are at or above basic VFR weather minimums;

(ii) Visual contact with the tower is maintained; and

(iii) A clearance to land is received.


?

Not to get into the whole parsing argument but for the subset of flight
known as VFR, there are no climb and descent rules that apply only to VFR
flight. The rules about airspace and operating limits apply to both VFR and
IFR flights.

"WingFlaps" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.


Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Cheers

"John" wrote in message
news:Ar1tj.6237$CX2.4572@trndny09...
Not to get into the whole parsing argument but for the subset of flight
known as VFR, there are no climb and descent rules that apply only to VFR
flight. The rules about airspace and operating limits apply to both VFR
and IFR flights.


That's how I viewed the question. The airspace/limits don't specifically
refer to VFR cruise, although cruising under VFR would still make you
subject to broader airspace and operating limits.


-c

gatt writes:

That's how I viewed the question. The airspace/limits don't specifically
refer to VFR cruise, although cruising under VFR would still make you
subject to broader airspace and operating limits.

So are there general limits for climb and descent rates that apply to VFR?

I know there are constraints for climbs and descents directed by ATC, but for
climbs and descents initiated by the pilot on his own (which would usually
apply only to VFR, although there are some IFR examples, too), I can't find a
specific maximum or (especially) minimum.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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gatt writes:

That's how I viewed the question. The airspace/limits don't
specifically refer to VFR cruise, although cruising under VFR would
still make you subject to broader airspace and operating limits.

So are there general limits for climb and descent rates that apply to
VFR?

I know there are constraints for climbs and descents directed by ATC,
but for climbs and descents initiated by the pilot on his own (which
would usually apply only to VFR, although there are some IFR examples,
too), I can't find a specific maximum or (especially) minimum.


You are an idiot

Bertie

In rec.aviation.student Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

That's how I viewed the question. The airspace/limits don't specifically
refer to VFR cruise, although cruising under VFR would still make you
subject to broader airspace and operating limits.

So are there general limits for climb and descent rates that apply to VFR?

Hasn't this question already been answered? Why are you asking it again?

I know there are constraints for climbs and descents directed by ATC, but for
climbs and descents initiated by the pilot on his own (which would usually
apply only to VFR, although there are some IFR examples, too), I can't find a
specific maximum or (especially) minimum.

Gliders have wildly varying rates of climb and descent, it's extremely
common to maintain 1-200fpm down for very long periods of time, and it's
not too uncommon to maintain very slow ascents for long periods of time
either. This is, of course, perfectly legal, and I'm not aware of any
regulation which only makes this sort of thing legal for the propulsively
challenged.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software

On Feb 15, 9:24*am, "John" wrote:
Not to get into the whole parsing argument but for the subset of flight
known as VFR, there are no climb and descent rules that apply only to VFR
flight. *The rules about airspace and operating limits apply to both VFR and
IFR flights.


Except when ascent or descent involves separation maybe?

Cheers



No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.

Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Cheers

"WingFlaps" wrote in message
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On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:
No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.


Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.

Cheers

You can't descend or climb faster than the speed of sound over most land.
Damn.

On Feb 15, 11:52*am, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:
"WingFlaps" wrote in message

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On Feb 15, 12:31 am, "John" wrote:

No there are no regulations for climb or descent rates for VFR flight.

Err I don't think that's 100% correct but it will do for MX.
Cheers

You can't descend or climb faster than the speed of sound over most land.
Damn.

Good one, I hadn't thought of that.

Cheers