Do it yourself??

"Flash" wrote in message
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But the option of buy ratty and restore might work best, and I hadn't
given that any thought, before. It just might be time to go shopping,
and the gliderport might be the first, best stop.


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or here
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On Jul 7, 6:39*pm, "Flash" wrote:
"Flash" wrote in message

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Folks, I've been lurking and reading your group for a good while. I admire
the talent it takes to fly, with or without power, and those who do this.

Thanks, all, for the reasoned and reasonable response.

I guess I've got to go to the gliderport and mooch a ride or two, and listen
a lot.

I have flight experience in T-34, T-37, a half a century ago, courtesy the
USAF. And 10 hrs dual in a Cessna 150, a decade ago. *Now, I'm sort-of
*retired*, and wondering if the urge to fly is as strong as it was in the
past.

There was a homebuilder in my area, a few years ago. He still had the record
for the largest single-engine all-wood personally designed and built - *and
it was still in his hangar when he went west. Two others of his homebuilts
were there, then, too. His record was five, he was building #6. He was my
impetus to consider homebuilding. I even bought the plans and material to
build a Bounsall Super Prospector, but in moving to smaller quarters three
years ago, I donated it all to the local EAA chapter.

But the option of buy ratty and restore might work best, and I hadn't given
that any thought, before. *It just might be time to go shopping, and the
gliderport might be the first, best stop.

Again, thank you all for the sound responses.

Flash

I suggest that you forget about buying a used glider and join a club.
After all, you have A LOT of training to do to get certified. You will
be (probably) flying new a/c NOW, instead of a year or more. Also,
your training will obviously be done dual, eliminating the need for
your own personal glider. There are a lot of subtleties about
purchasing a used glider that can't be answered here. In the mean
time, you will lower your costs, both acquisition and maintenance, by
pooling your resources with a decent club (which can be located at
www.ssa.org).

JMTCW

On 9th July '08 JMYCW reponded to 'Flash' :-

I suggest that you forget about buying a used glider and join a club.
After all, you have A LOT of training to do to get certified. You will be
(probably) flying new aircraft NOW, instead of in a year or more. Also,
your training will obviously be done dual, eliminating the need for your
own personal glider. There are a lot of subtleties about purchasing a used
glider that can't be answered here. In the meantime, you will lower your
costs, both acquisition and maintenance, by pooling your resources with a
decent club (which can be located at www.ssa.org).

JMTCW

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Hi JMTCW,

I am sure that every other thread contributor that has given personal
advice to 'Flash' totally agrees with what you have written above
regarding joinind a gliding club and starting dual gliding training
lessons NOW! I am sure that in the USA most clubs (as inthe UK) would
have the option of an extended aerotow "Trial flying lesson" prior to
any commitment to the Annual Membership Fee. It is just that I (and I am
sure all the other thread contributors) took it for granted that to start
glider pilot training now (or at least very soon) in a modern dual
sailplane was initially the obvious way forward (even if this was not
immediately obvious to 'Flash').

What I (and I am sure the others) were doing (to encourage 'Flash') was
meanwhile to just discuss the possible options that would present
themselves in the medium or long-term future regarding self or
co-ownership of a sailplane.

Additionally, I am not sure what happens in gliding clubs/groups 'States
side' but in the UK the norm soon after training to solo level is to
set-up or buy-into a co-ownership syndicate. However, probably about 15%
of glider pilots (who have stayed in the sport medium to long term) never
enter into private ownership in any form and spend their entire gliding
years flying the club single-seaters.

In summary JMTCW, I would say that all the contributors to this thread
(including yourself of course) are in total agreement. It's just that
some of us did not initially express ourselves clearly and took for
granted (that may not have been obvious to 'Flash' at the time) that to
start dual training very soon is the 'one and only' initial
recommendation that we would make! All the other aspects and
considerations can be considered during dual training.

Regards

On Jul 9, 12:27*am, Tony Clark wrote:
On 9th July '08 JMYCW reponded to 'Flash' :-

I suggest that you forget about buying a used glider and join a club.
After all, you have A LOT of training to do to get certified. You will be
(probably) flying new aircraft NOW, instead of in a year or more. Also,
your training will obviously be done dual, eliminating the need for your
own personal glider. There are a lot of subtleties about purchasing a used
glider that can't be answered here. In the meantime, you will lower your
costs, both acquisition and maintenance, by pooling your resources with a
decent club (which can be located atwww.ssa.org).

JMTCW

__________________________________________________

Hi JMTCW,

I am sure that every other thread contributor that has given personal
advice to 'Flash' totally agrees with what you have written above
regarding joinind a gliding club and starting dual gliding training
lessons NOW! *I am sure that in the USA most clubs (as inthe UK) would
have the option of an extended aerotow "Trial flying lesson" prior to
any commitment to the Annual Membership Fee. It is just that I (and I am
sure all the other thread contributors) took it for granted that to start
glider pilot training now (or at least very soon) in a modern dual
sailplane was initially the obvious way forward (even if this was not
immediately obvious to 'Flash').

What I (and I am sure the others) were doing (to encourage 'Flash') was
meanwhile to just discuss the possible options that would present
themselves in the medium or long-term future regarding self or
co-ownership of a sailplane.

Additionally, I am not sure what happens in gliding clubs/groups 'States
side' but in the UK the norm soon after training to solo level is to
set-up or buy-into a co-ownership syndicate. However, probably about 15%
of glider pilots (who have stayed in the sport medium to long term) never
enter into private ownership in any form and spend their entire gliding
years flying the club single-seaters.

In summary JMTCW, I would say that all the contributors to this thread
(including yourself of course) are in total agreement. It's just that
some of us did not initially express ourselves clearly and took for
granted (that may not have been obvious to 'Flash' at the time) that to
start dual training very soon is the 'one and only' initial
recommendation that we would make! All the other aspects and
considerations can be considered during dual training.

Regards



Thanks for the clarification. Many of our minds are racing full-speed
ahead from training-to-solo-to-certificate-to-get disenfranchise with
the club equipment (I shudder to think who long ago I went thru that
process!). Flash really needs to think about STEP 1 first. He/she can
run out and buy a used glider at any time.

JMTCW

wrote in message
...
On Jul 9, 12:27 am, Tony Clark wrote:
On 9th July '08 JMYCW reponded to 'Flash' :-

I suggest that you forget about buying a used glider and join a club.
After all, you have A LOT of training to do to get certified. You will be
(probably) flying new aircraft NOW, instead of in a year or more. Also,
your training will obviously be done dual, eliminating the need for your
own personal glider. There are a lot of subtleties about purchasing a used
glider that can't be answered here. In the meantime, you will lower your
costs, both acquisition and maintenance, by pooling your resources with a
decent club (which can be located atwww.ssa.org).

JMTCW

__________________________________________________

Hi JMTCW,

I am sure that every other thread contributor that has given personal
advice to 'Flash' totally agrees with what you have written above
regarding joinind a gliding club and starting dual gliding training
lessons NOW! I am sure that in the USA most clubs (as inthe UK) would
have the option of an extended aerotow "Trial flying lesson" prior to
any commitment to the Annual Membership Fee. It is just that I (and I am
sure all the other thread contributors) took it for granted that to start
glider pilot training now (or at least very soon) in a modern dual
sailplane was initially the obvious way forward (even if this was not
immediately obvious to 'Flash').

What I (and I am sure the others) were doing (to encourage 'Flash') was
meanwhile to just discuss the possible options that would present
themselves in the medium or long-term future regarding self or
co-ownership of a sailplane.

Additionally, I am not sure what happens in gliding clubs/groups 'States
side' but in the UK the norm soon after training to solo level is to
set-up or buy-into a co-ownership syndicate. However, probably about 15%
of glider pilots (who have stayed in the sport medium to long term) never
enter into private ownership in any form and spend their entire gliding
years flying the club single-seaters.

In summary JMTCW, I would say that all the contributors to this thread
(including yourself of course) are in total agreement. It's just that
some of us did not initially express ourselves clearly and took for
granted (that may not have been obvious to 'Flash' at the time) that to
start dual training very soon is the 'one and only' initial
recommendation that we would make! All the other aspects and
considerations can be considered during dual training.

Regards



Thanks for the clarification. Many of our minds are racing full-speed
ahead from training-to-solo-to-certificate-to-get disenfranchise with
the club equipment (I shudder to think who long ago I went thru that
process!). Flash really needs to think about STEP 1 first. He/she can
run out and buy a used glider at any time.

JMTCW

Folks, THAT is exactly what I needed to hear. And, prefaced as it was, by
a number of thoughtful posts, makes elemental sense.

I guess it is time to drive over the hill to the glider operation. There
certainly are a wealth of them to choose from here in PA.(Pure Appalachia).

With great regard and thanks,

Flash