Why Pilots of America rocks...

In article ,
Stella Starr wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:
There is no need or reason for anyone here to stoop to
personal attacks, at any time.

Really.
Let me just fetch up...
"Given your known political stance, however, (somewhere to the left of
Hugo Chavez) it adds up..."

posted by one Jay Honeck, Sept 1, 2008 6:05 AM

Nonetheless, Jay's point is correct. There is no need. Regardless
of whether or not people have done it, there is no value in personal attacks.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Jay Honeck schrieb:
Below is what was published today on the moderated piloting group, "Pilots
of America". As you may recall, this is the piloting group that Dudley
Henriques, myself, and a host of others have switched to, now that the
cross-posting trolls have emasculated this once-hallowed group.

This *here* is usenet. Whatever you say and how good your quoted article
is or might be: This was NOT a shameless and harmless plug, this was
pure advertisment for a (free) service and is intended to disturb (yeah,
I know ...) this group. Please refrain from doing so. Thank you.

As I don't intend to make this a broad discussion: please let it stay as
said, thus I set a f-up to poster. Thank you. :-)

#m

This *here* is usenet. Whatever you say and how good your quoted article
is or might be: This was NOT a shameless and harmless plug, this was pure
advertisment for a (free) service and is intended to disturb (yeah, I know
...) this group. Please refrain from doing so. Thank you.

As I don't intend to make this a broad discussion: please let it stay as
said, thus I set a f-up to poster. Thank you. :-)

Martin, usually your English is quite good -- but I haven't had enough beer
to make any sense out those two paragraphs.

Try that again, please?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article cXDvk.326662$yE1.310662@attbi_s21,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

This *here* is usenet. Whatever you say and how good your quoted article
is or might be: This was NOT a shameless and harmless plug, this was pure
advertisment for a (free) service and is intended to disturb (yeah, I know
...) this group. Please refrain from doing so. Thank you.

As I don't intend to make this a broad discussion: please let it stay as
said, thus I set a f-up to poster. Thank you. :-)

Martin, usually your English is quite good -- but I haven't had enough beer
to make any sense out those two paragraphs.

(if I may interject...)

well, it seems Martin's point is that plugging POA as an alternative
to rec.aviation.* contributes to the exodus of group contributers,
and that actually hurts the group.

As to the 2nd para, Martin occasionally utilizes the feature of
setting followups ("f-up") to the poster (Martin, in this case).

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

"Bob Noel" wrote

well, it seems Martin's point is that plugging POA as an alternative
to rec.aviation.* contributes to the exodus of group contributers,
and that actually hurts the group.

How can it possibly hurt this group any further?

I loath the setup of POA, and find little to no enjoyment trying to read it.

That being said, all one can hope to do is to keep good people in touch with
each other, and POA is all that is left.

All one can hope at this point is that this group finish its flaming death
gasps, and later that it can possibly be reborn from the ashes.
--
Jim in NC

In article , "Morgans" wrote:

well, it seems Martin's point is that plugging POA as an alternative
to rec.aviation.* contributes to the exodus of group contributers,
and that actually hurts the group.

How can it possibly hurt this group any further?

You are correct that rec.aviation.piloting has been damaged by vandals with
the maturity of a 10 year old. And those pilots are an embarrassment.

I loath the setup of POA, and find little to no enjoyment trying to read it.

Yep, the user interface stinks.


That being said, all one can hope to do is to keep good people in touch with
each other, and POA is all that is left.

All one can hope at this point is that this group finish its flaming death
gasps, and later that it can possibly be reborn from the ashes.

That's the hope. However, I suspect that the trolls and vandals won't
grow up.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:cXDvk.326662$yE1.310662@attbi_s21:

This *here* is usenet. Whatever you say and how good your quoted
article is or might be: This was NOT a shameless and harmless plug,
this was pure advertisment for a (free) service and is intended to
disturb (yeah, I know ...) this group. Please refrain from doing so.
Thank you.

As I don't intend to make this a broad discussion: please let it stay
as said, thus I set a f-up to poster. Thank you. :-)

Martin, usually your English is quite good



Better than your's obviously. Not to mention his usenet savvy.



Bertie

Jay Honeck schrieb:
Try that again, please?

What would you say if the bellboy from a hotel in your town shows up in
your lobby saying to your guests that they should come over to his place
(whatever the reason might be)?

You just did *exactly* the same here on usenet.

#m

Martin Hotze wrote:
Jay Honeck schrieb:
Try that again, please?

What would you say if the bellboy from a hotel in your town shows up in
your lobby saying to your guests that they should come over to his place
(whatever the reason might be)?

You just did *exactly* the same here on usenet.

What would you say if a fireman showed up in Jay's lobby saying his hotel's
roof is on fire and his guests should evacuate to another hotel?

And what if pigs had wings?

What would you say if the bellboy from a hotel in your town shows up in
your lobby saying to your guests that they should come over to his place
(whatever the reason might be)?

You just did *exactly* the same here on usenet.

What would you say if a fireman showed up in Jay's lobby saying his
hotel's
roof is on fire and his guests should evacuate to another hotel?

Exactly.

I would LOVE to come here some morning and find that the trolls were gone,
and all the old regulars were coming back, one by one. In fact, the only
reason I'm still here at all is because I keep hoping to see some sign of
this happening.

Sadly, there is no indication that this will ever occur. If anything, the
number of trolls and their sock-puppets has continued to grow, and they now
virtually own the group. All you have to do is check out the recent thread
on "Father/son flying" -- a terrific topic -- to see what the trolls do with
even such an innocent, heart-warming subject.

The best we can hope for is that any student pilot who may stumble into this
group just as quickly moves on, lest they get the false impression that
aviation is chock-full of nuts.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"