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Old September 10th 08, 01:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Kobra
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"RST Engineering" wrote in message
m...
Well, let's see now.

In order to join, I have to provide a car, maintain it, and insure it. To
boot, I pay $50 a year for the privilege of borrowing somebody else's car
that MIGHT be at the airport I'm headed for.

That doesn't really sound like a heck of a deal to me.

Now if it was $250 to join if I DIDN'T have to provide a car or free if I
did, and if part of that $250 was rebated back to me as a function of
useage of my car to help with the maintenance and insurance, it might be a
little more tempting.


Good points....AAMOF I forwarded your suggestion on to the owner of the
site. He said giving money back to owners for usage gets sticky as far as
insurance liability goes. He said he would consider other options similar
to what you suggested so as not to muddy the waters

Kobra


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Old September 10th 08, 07:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Yeah, things get "sticky". Twenty years ago we left a junker wagon at the
local airport with the keys at the fbo for anybody that fly in could use.
The wagon got taken a couple of hundred miles away from the airport by an
asshole that abandoned it for us to truck home. There were several comments
that since the air conditioning wasn't working that they weren't going to
put gas in it.

When it got to the thousand dollar a year liability we pulled the plug.

Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the world owes them a
living because they are pilots. Don't come on here proclaiming your virtue;
I have hard evidence to the contrary.

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Kobra" wrote in message
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"RST Engineering" wrote in message
m...

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Good points....AAMOF I forwarded your suggestion on to the owner of the
site. He said giving money back to owners for usage gets sticky as far as
insurance liability goes. He said he would consider other options similar
to what you suggested so as not to muddy the waters



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Old September 10th 08, 07:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...
Yeah, things get "sticky". Twenty years ago we left a junker wagon at the
local airport with the keys at the fbo for anybody that fly in could use.
The wagon got taken a couple of hundred miles away from the airport by an
asshole that abandoned it for us to truck home. There were several
comments that since the air conditioning wasn't working that they weren't
going to put gas in it.

When it got to the thousand dollar a year liability we pulled the plug.

Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the world owes them
a living because they are pilots. Don't come on here proclaiming your
virtue; I have hard evidence to the contrary.

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Kobra" wrote in message
. ..

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
m...

.

Good points....AAMOF I forwarded your suggestion on to the owner of the
site. He said giving money back to owners for usage gets sticky as far
as insurance liability goes. He said he would consider other options
similar to what you suggested so as not to muddy the waters





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Old September 10th 08, 04:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Tman
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*most*??

The burden for proof is much higher for "most", but "some" is almost
clearly true....

RST Engineering wrote:

Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the world owes them a

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Old September 10th 08, 04:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Isaksen
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"RST Engineering" ...
Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the
world owes them a living because they are pilots.


Most ?!?,... the problem with that thinking is you dread every person
walking thru the door. It almost becomes self-fulfilling.

My experience is that the pilot population is quite a "normal distribution"
in that male characteristic. ;-)

Now "collage kids", that's another group.



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Old September 10th 08, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mike Isaksen" ...

Now "collage kids", ....



Yikes !! I went to college, but I can't spell college. Sad!
;-)


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Old September 10th 08, 05:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Collage is a perfectly good art form that you can learn as an art major in
college.

Jim

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"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Mike Isaksen" wrote in message
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"RST Engineering" ...
Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the
world owes them a living because they are pilots.


Most ?!?,... the problem with that thinking is you dread every person
walking thru the door. It almost becomes self-fulfilling.

My experience is that the pilot population is quite a "normal
distribution" in that male characteristic. ;-)

Now "collage kids", that's another group.





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Old September 10th 08, 07:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Fry
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"MI" == Mike Isaksen writes:

MI Most ?!?,... the problem with that thinking is you dread every
MI person walking thru the door. It almost becomes
MI self-fulfilling.

Jim doesn't dread every person walking through his door. He relishes
the chance for combat and creates every opportunity for same.
--
"You, Mr. Wilkes, will die either of the pox or on the gallows."
-The Earl of Sandwich
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Old September 16th 08, 04:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Kobra
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Quite frankly, some (most) pilots are pigs that think the world owes them
a
living because they are pilots.


Spoken like a true FAA employee.

Actually, in my experience, 'most' pilots are mature, responsible, reliable
and affluent adults.

'Some' I will not even attempt to argue with you on.

Kobra


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Old September 8th 08, 04:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Ross
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Kobra wrote:
Flyers,

I was reading my Pilot Getaways Mag this morning and found an article about
something I've been thinking about myself for years.

It is an internet based Airport courtesy car club. I just signed up today
because I have a POJ (piece of junk) that I keep at ACY and every time I go
there I have a dead battery because I can't drive it enough. I've given
several pilot friends the keys, but it's still rarely if ever used by them.
This despite the fact that taxi fees are about 90 round trip with tip to get
from the airport to town and it's a great location to fly for dinner, a
show, the beach, boardwalk and of course gaming. I've always wished I could
let more pilots know about the car and now there is just such a system. The
only problem is that there is limited involvement, most likely due to lack
of awareness.

I have no association with this place, but I'm gonna give it a good sales
pitch because I love this idea.

It's free to join if you provide a car. It's 50 dollars per year if you
just join. Taking a car is free! Just fill it back up and don't crash or
trash it. Keys are kept at the local FBO or in a combination lockbox. Cars
are reserved online. Car owners always have priority of their car even if
it's reserved (within reason, you can't cancel someone just hours before
their arrival)

In all honesty, nothing could be fairer or more simplistic. They just need
more members. I think there's just over 30 cars in 17 states, but I'm sure
that's changing quickly.

Here's the website: www.airportcarsclub.com

I hope you guys are excited about this as I am, because I love to fly, but
when I get somewhere I want to go out exploring, have lunch or dinner or
sightsee.

Smooth air to all,

Kobra


I thought I would put a car at a destination I go to alot but never did.
I like this idea, but how does the liability insurance work? We are all
"friends" but when an accident happens, we can turn against one another.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
 




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