Whats it take to get a ride on a jump seat

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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| Maxwell wrote:
| The no facial hair requirement was specified to assure proper fit of
the O2
| mask in an emergency.
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| I see lots of airline pilots with thick mustaches.

Hard to say, probably depends on the airline and coverage of the mustache.
If it didn't interfere with the O2 masks, like many beards, probably not a
factor.

Tman wrote:
Of a commercial airline flight. Is it just out of the question?
I have a comm'l ticket and am an avid aviator so we I might have
something to bond with the crew on the ground, and can understand the
need to stay out of their hair in the air.
That said, I'm not a beautiful lady, so I don't have that going for me.
I imagine that no degree of schmoozing and trying can get me into a jump
seat, unless I happen to know one of the crew. Anyone disagree?
T

Post 9/11 with locked doors to the cockpit and mouthwash being
confiscated?

You've got to be kidding.

Maybe on Aeroflot where they aren't quite as anal.


--
Jim Pennino

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"Tman" wrote in message
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Of a commercial airline flight. Is it just out of the question?
I have a comm'l ticket and am an avid aviator so we I might have something
to bond with the crew on the ground, and can understand the need to stay
out of their hair in the air.
That said, I'm not a beautiful lady, so I don't have that going for me.
I imagine that no degree of schmoozing and trying can get me into a jump
seat, unless I happen to know one of the crew. Anyone disagree?
T

I used to do it all the time pre-9/11. A couple of the cool ones included a
take-off in a 747-440 from JFK and a 777 IMC approach into HKG. It was only
possible because my fiancee at the time was an active flight attendant at
the time. I've heard that it is possible now only on non-US carriers on
international flights while out of US airspace with an even better chance on
non-US airport trip pairs. If you don't know anyone, my guess is that your
chances are slim to none no matter what carrier.

If you really have the itch, go buy one of those World Air Routes in cockpit
videos. Aside from the [minimal] physical sensations, the experience is
identical and in many ways better since they explain the flight and aircraft
systems in many of the videos.

Marco

On Dec 4, 3:35*am, "Marco Leon" wrote:
t carrier.

If you really have the itch, go buy one of those World Air Routes in cockpit
videos. Aside from the [minimal] physical sensations, the experience is
identical and in many ways better since they explain the flight and aircraft
systems in many of the videos.

you wouldnt be related to Msxmanic by any chance?

"terry" wrote in message
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On Dec 4, 3:35 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:
t carrier.

If you really have the itch, go buy one of those World Air Routes in
cockpit
videos. Aside from the [minimal] physical sensations, the experience is
identical and in many ways better since they explain the flight and
aircraft
systems in many of the videos.

you wouldnt be related to Msxmanic by any chance?


Hopefully they don't breed in large numbers.

"terry" wrote in message
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On Dec 4, 3:35 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:
t carrier.

If you really have the itch, go buy one of those World Air Routes in
cockpit
videos. Aside from the [minimal] physical sensations, the experience is
identical and in many ways better since they explain the flight and
aircraft
systems in many of the videos.

you wouldnt be related to Msxmanic by any chance?

Nope, Marco is a particpant in this group from way back.

What he says sounds about right. Unless you know someone in a non US
airline, chances of a jump seat ride are slim to none. If that is not you
then perhaps a video ride is the best you will do. And since the physical
sensations on a commercial flight are only slightly more exciting than
sitting in a recliner in your living room, that description sounds about
right too.

Don't be too quick to judge everyone on MX's standards. His simming is not
the problem. He is, in every other way.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"terry" wrote in message
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On Dec 4, 3:35 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:

And since the physical sensations on a commercial flight are only slightly
more exciting than sitting in a recliner in your living room, that
description sounds about right too.


That is always my hope!

"Morgans" wrote in message
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Nope, Marco is a particpant in this group from way back.

What he says sounds about right. Unless you know someone in a non US
airline, chances of a jump seat ride are slim to none. If that is not you
then perhaps a video ride is the best you will do. And since the physical
sensations on a commercial flight are only slightly more exciting than
sitting in a recliner in your living room, that description sounds about
right too.

Don't be too quick to judge everyone on MX's standards. His simming is
not the problem. He is, in every other way.
--
Jim in NC

Thanks for the backup Jim. No, MX I'm not although I've sparred with him a
few times until I became enlightened.

Part of the reason I was able to get the jump seats back then was becasue I
was a pilot. I had some good conversations about aircraft systems with a few
in the cockpit crew because of that fact.

The videos are quite close to being there. For pilots--especially instrument
rated ones active in the system--there's even a thing or two to learn about
the different airlines' IFR procedures and what you might be able to
incorporate in your own process.To me, those procedures are the main reason
why their accident record is so good.

Marco

On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:16:58 -0500, Tman wrote:

Of a commercial airline flight. Is it just out of the question?

What you are trying to do is possible if you know a pilot and he/she has an
empty maintenance ferry flight.

I had the great fortune to ride on such a flight in a B-737 a couple of
years ago.

With no passengers the flight operates under Part 91 flight rules.

With passengers you are out of luck:
http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part121-547-FAR.shtml


--
Dallas

"Tman" wrote in message
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Of a commercial airline flight. Is it just out of the question?
I have a comm'l ticket and am an avid aviator so we I might have something
to bond with the crew on the ground, and can understand the need to stay
out of their hair in the air.
That said, I'm not a beautiful lady, so I don't have that going for me.
I imagine that no degree of schmoozing and trying can get me into a jump
seat, unless I happen to know one of the crew. Anyone disagree?
T

Was on a little puddle jumper when I was around 10 or so and to all places
"SPACE CAMP"! It was a regular flight but they allowed me and a friend that
went with me into the cockpit and watch for a little while, (now that I
think about it, kind of like in Airplane! but I don't remember the Captain
asking me about gladiator movies).