Russian Military Technology

"Alejandro Magno" wrote in message
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"Ragnar" wrote in message
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I would note that Kursk was fought by the SOVIETS, not the Russians.

Thanks, I did not know that there were not Russians in the Soviet Army.

You are a fool.

The Soviet Army included Georgians, Armenians, Ukranians, ByeloRussians,
Uzbeks, Kazajhs etc. etc.

Keith

"Keith Willshaw" wrote:

:You are a fool.
:
:The Soviet Army included Georgians, Armenians, Ukranians, ByeloRussians,
:Uzbeks, Kazajhs etc. etc.

Uh, on this one, you may be, too, Keith. Combat units tended to be
90%+ ethnic Russians. The lesser races were relegated to support
formations.

--
You have never lived until you have almost died.
Life has a special meaning that the protected
will never know.

I would note that Kursk was fought by the SOVIETS, not the Russians.

Thanks, I did not know that there were not Russians in the Soviet Army.
Thanks, you are brilliant, "happy" american.

Kursk was fought by conscripts, many of whom had to be taught simply commands
in Russian so they could follow orders, since they came from far-off republics
on the orders of the Communists. Kursk was a victory of one totalitarian
state's army against another - something to be *very* proud of, Alexander the
not too bright.

In article ,
(Paul Lakowski) wrote:

Oh I don't think the USA needs any help looking bad, they seem to be
doing a good enough job at it already.

Well, considering that the criteria for "bad" is apparently "kicking out
dictators," we can live with that.

Especially when you look at the people who are complaining about the US
the most. Not exactly a burden. It's like having a homeless guy mad at
you for not giving him a quarter.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Chad Irby wrote:
Well, considering that the criteria for "bad" is apparently "kicking
out
dictators," we can live with that.


wow .. kicking out dictators. Now that's cool !

The Yugoslavs returned to the arms control treaty/inspections within
months
of the end of the conflict. The last time that they exchanged information
was January 1999 when they pulled out due to the on-going Kosovo
crisis.Apart from the Dayton Accord they also rejoined the Vienna Document
and in late 1999 revealed that they had lost 18 MBT and 136 ACV. They also
revealed that they had lost 50 fixed wing combat aircraft and 11 combat
helicopters.

The problem with using those statistics is that those only show operational
equipment (atleast that is how I understand it), so damaged equipment would
show as a loss too.

"tadaa" wrote in message ...
The Yugoslavs returned to the arms control treaty/inspections within
months
of the end of the conflict. The last time that they exchanged
information
was January 1999 when they pulled out due to the on-going Kosovo
crisis.Apart from the Dayton Accord they also rejoined the Vienna
Document
and in late 1999 revealed that they had lost 18 MBT and 136 ACV. They
also
revealed that they had lost 50 fixed wing combat aircraft and 11 combat
helicopters.

The problem with using those statistics is that those only show
operational
equipment (atleast that is how I understand it), so damaged equipment
would
show as a loss too.



Yes, but the Yugoslavs have returned the same figures since their return to
the treaty status in late 1999. This equipment was written-off from the
inventory and openly declared. In terms of combat vehicles lost this
included both MUP and VJ inventories. In terms of which arm suffered the
most was revealed by the Yugoslav military themselves.

In interviews during 2001 Yugoslav air force Col. Radovan Rakovic stated:

"All our airports on the ground suffered great damage," Rakovic said. The
Yugoslav air force, he
said, lost about 30 percent of its combat equipment and 40 percent of its
combat systems."

In regards to Yugoslav Air Force losses Gen Pavkovic revealed:

"Pavkovic believes the Yugoslav military was successful overall because it
suffered relatively few
casualties and managed to hold on to many of its weapons systems. The lone
exception, he said, was
the Yugoslav air force, which "suffered considerable losses."

The figures for the lost aircraft only show the combat aircraft lost during
the conflict. The numbers of non-combat aircraft written-off / destroyed
during the conflict brings the figure to approx 80 airframes. Non of those
destroyed were any of the retired airframes that resided in the boneyard at
the Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum (This compound was not targeted) nor the
small number of Iraqi MiG-23s and MiG-21.


TJ

noname wrote:
Russian SUPER technology page http://www.funet.fi/~timaham/toilet/

American technology is so reliable that fails before the mission
begins:
http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/host...empt/id14.html

My respect to those AMERICAN HEROES who lost their lives trying to
rescue their countrymen, but American technology did not cooperate.

More he http://www.iraqwar.ru

"And so we had Afghanistan, when the most powerful air force in the
world ridiculously bombed fuzzy-wuzzies in sandals and turbans. The
latest technology was used, with bombs costing thousands of times more
than the worth of their targets"

"And after Afghanistan we had Iraq II. This war on Iraq was initiated
solely because the country, situated only a few miles away from the
bandit, terrorist state, could pose a potential future threat to it."

Taken from he http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1382

and there is more for my proud American friends:
"Afghanistan never attacked the United States. Iraq never attacked the
United States. Israel did -- and the United States immediately
surrendered.
The Israeli Attack on the USS Liberty.

Israel will fiercely combat the truth, for it is the one weapon
against them in which they have no defense."

taken from: http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread...threadid=52499

More information at http://www.ussliberty.org (a knife in the back of
America by her "ally")

Who is Jonnatan Pollard ? ups .. ups.... ups .... another stab in the
back

And what about Mr. Lavon ?
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/1spy/Lavon.html
ups .. ups ... ups ... another stab in the back

Shooting planes down with civilians
http://www.mathaba.net/info/flight114.htm
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/974655/posts

Americans like hunting, Israelis, too.
http://geocities.com/mossadlibrary/trophy.html

Poor jewish woman:
http://islamonline.net/English/News/...rticle04.shtml

A palestinian boy playing with a tank:
http://www.giwersworld.org

Who is the secretary of Defense ?
http://www.nowarforisrael.com
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/12/Counterpunch_1.html
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=11325
http://nogw.com/warforisrael.html

Highest IQ in the world:
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1575
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...storyid=703396


I still do not uderstand, America needs oil, the arabs have the oil,
an America is on Israel side. Can someone explain that to me ?

Americans really know how to get along between each other:
Poor little girl
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/docs/joyner_shark.mp3
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1091


I thought that Americans were Christians, but a special kind of
Christians, Christians who do not read the BIBLE.

Learn from me, lets spell the word "BIBLE".

B. Basic
I. Intructions
B. Before
L. Living
E. Earth

Are you still with me or is it too complicated ?

Now, lets read the BIBLE, today passage is John 7:13

"Others replied, "No, he deceives the people." But no one would say
anything publicly about him for fear of the Jews."

Do not believe me ?

http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/...&version=N IV


Americans have a great education:
http://www.ocpathink.org/Education/W...ohnnyRead.html
"In the government schools, hundreds of thousands of graduates from
the twelfth grade cannot read their own diplomas...."

Per capita, Chile is almost as rich as America:
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1388

Nice country you got !!!!

The only politician who is a real AMERICAN is Pat Buchanan.

But Americans do not listen. They want to live their little happy
lives inside the MATRIX fed by propaganda coming from jewishland.

http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwrdet.htm
http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/usafuture.htm

Enjoy what is left of your country.

Alejandro Magno III

From: (Alejandro Magno)

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Shooting planes down with civilians
http://www.mathaba.net/info/flight114.htm
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/974655/posts


KAL 007 ring a bell?

If you are going to bash be fair about it.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

(B2431) wrote
KAL 007 ring a bell?
If you are going to bash be fair about it.
Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

KAL 007

"Happy" Americans using civilian aircraft to spy on the EMPIRE.
Americans are not only "Happy", they are chickens, too. They send
women and children in a civilian aircfraft to do a man's job.

Well, If I have to spy on Mother Russia, I will chicken out, too.

Holy Russians have this kind of toys:
http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wm...c/ss25_001.jpg

After Holy Russians play with their toy, America will look like this:
http://www.mindspring.com/~jamoyers/...shots/atom.gif
http://www.donaldedavis.com/BIGPUB/CASLBRAV.jpg
http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wm...s_aviation.jpg

America will be warm, I think. Remember to visit
http://www.weather.com to check the temperatures in the American
cities, the range will vary between 1,000 C and 50,000,000 C.

Q: What is a "happy" American ?
A: http://www.white-history.com/usafuture.htm

Magno