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Old November 4th 09, 04:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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Default P-63 (?) Airacobra/Kingcobra power question

Ron Wanttaja wrote:
Years ago, when there was a controversy as to whether paddles or
propellers were most efficient for ships, the British came up with a
simple test: They built two identical ships, with identical engines,
one with paddles and one with a prop. They tied a rope between the
sterns, and had the captains go to full power to see which had more
thrust.


Wikipedia says that "In 1848 the British Admiralty held a tug of war
contest between a propeller driven ship, Rattler, and a paddle wheel ship,
Alecto. Rattler won, towing Alecto astern at 2.5 knots (4.6 km/h)...."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propeller

However, it is probable that the paddle wheel ship simply didn't have the
right size paddles. Paddle wheels should be capable of efficiencies similar
to propellers - but it takes very large wheels.
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Old November 4th 09, 07:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Wanttaja[_2_]
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Default P-63 (?) Airacobra/Kingcobra power question

Jim Logajan wrote:

However, it is probable that the paddle wheel ship simply didn't have the
right size paddles. Paddle wheels should be capable of efficiencies similar
to propellers - but it takes very large wheels.


Jim, Jim, Jim.... HOW can you set us up with a straight line like that?

1. "It's not the size of the wheels, it's how you use them."

2. "If they would have set up the wheels in a canard configuration, it
would have been more efficient."

:-)

Ron Wanttaja


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Old November 4th 09, 12:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
a[_3_]
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Default P-63 (?) Airacobra/Kingcobra power question

On Nov 4, 1:19*am, Ron Wanttaja wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote:
However, it is probable that the paddle wheel ship simply didn't have the
right size paddles. Paddle wheels should be capable of efficiencies similar
to propellers - but it takes very large wheels.


Jim, Jim, Jim.... HOW can you set us up with a straight line like that?

1. *"It's not the size of the wheels, it's how you use them."

2. *"If they would have set up the wheels in a canard configuration, it
would have been more efficient."

:-)

Ron Wanttaja


Paddle wheels got screwed. It's just another demonstration that the
spinning thing belongs on the back of the hull.
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Old November 4th 09, 01:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Default P-63 (?) Airacobra/Kingcobra power question

a wrote:

Paddle wheels got screwed. It's just another demonstration that the
spinning thing belongs on the back of the hull.


Except when it belongs in the front.

"At full load the Mackinaw displaced 5,252.4 tons and drew 19' 2.25" of
water. Her innovative features included a 12 foot diameter bow propeller
which draws water from beneath the ice ahead, both weakening the ice and
sending water along the sides of the hull and reducing ice friction. The
Mackinaw also has a heeling system which can shift nearly 112,000 gallons of
ballast water from side to side in 90 seconds, allowing a rocking motion
which assists the Mackinaw in freeing itself from ice."

http://www.mightymac.org/cgcmackinaw.htm


 




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