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"durabol" wrote Has anyone made a 2-stroke engine from scratch? One may need to cast aluminium, may need a lathe and milling machine with boring head and hone or perhaps the boring and honing of the cylinder and bearing journals could be farmed out. A commercial carburetor and piston could be used. Two-stroke engines seem simple enough that home construction may be possible, if not practical. A direct drive engine will be that much heavier when you take into account the weight of the drive reduction system. I am assuming you meant to write "will _(not)_ be that much heavier", right? If so, when is the last time you saw a direct drive 2 stroke aircraft engine? Not me. Closest I can think of is a model airplane engine, and that is only practical because of the small prop sizes. If you put a large enough prop on a 2 stroke to soak up 50 hp, you will have to keep rpm's way down to keep from having a real noisy, inefficient prop. You keep the RPM's that low, and you now have a real inefficient 2 stroke engine. That is why all 2 stroke engines have gearboxes or belt drives to reduce prop speed. You might do well to consider a 2 stroke supercharged diesel engine. You make one of those, and make it scaleable by adding more banks of cylinders, and the flying world will beat a path to your doorstep. -- Jim in NC |
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Suzuki built a 650cc water cooled 2 stroke twin for Arctic Cat. I think
that engine is about the ultimate in big bore 2 stroke twins... At one time I considered getting 2 of these and putting them in a small sports car like a Triumph Spitfire but I've since moved to a state that does emissions testing and that won't pass here... Suzuki just about ruled the 2 stroke motorcycle market with their rock solid reliable engines. You could count on a 75k miles out of a Suzuki triple when the other companies' bikes would only go 15 to 20k miles on a set of pistons... There were also some big bore 2 stroke dirt bikes. I know all the major players in the market built them but the one that comes to mind was a 500cc Husqvarna single. Sleeves, pistons ect are all available for these bikes could be used to build your own. The easiest way to go is to use someone else's engineering and machine work to build your engine. That way the major parts to make would be the cases, barrels and cylinder heads since the bike ones won't have adequate cooling. I imagine that a 1000cc 2 stroke opposed twin would be pretty cool and could be tuned to run at an RPM low enough for direct drive. However it's not a good idea to put a prop on a built up crankshaft like all 2 strokes use and a belt drive or some such would be required. I would highly recommend reading the 2 stroke tuners handbook if you can find a copy. I have a PDF version but it's too big to eMail. Also talk to Charlie at Superior Sleeve in Millwaukie, OR. Charlie has built more custom 2 stroke engines than just about anybody alive today... If you can catch him when he has time to talk, he will enlighten you a great deal. It's been more than 20 years since I was building high performance 2 stroke engines and I've forgotten a lot over the years... Good luck and keep us posted if you go on with this project. Tony |
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Morgans schreef:
You might do well to consider a 2 stroke supercharged diesel engine. You make one of those, and make it scaleable by adding more banks of cylinders, and the flying world will beat a path to your doorstep. Hm. The flying world did not exactly beat any kind of path to the doorstep of www.dair.co.uk, though they did exactly that. Wilksh company wasn't far off, either, with equal lack of big success. |
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"jan olieslagers" wrote in message ... Morgans schreef: You might do well to consider a 2 stroke supercharged diesel engine. You make one of those, and make it scaleable by adding more banks of cylinders, and the flying world will beat a path to your doorstep. Hm. The flying world did not exactly beat any kind of path to the doorstep of www.dair.co.uk, though they did exactly that. Wilksh company wasn't far off, either, with equal lack of big success. I suspect the two cylinders with 4 pistons is a bit unconventional, and will have to work all the harder to prove itself. I think the web page is about 10 years old, since much activity has taken place. It looks like it is a bit heavy when you add all it needs to run in an airplane, too. How about price? No mention of that, on the current pages. -- Jim in NC |
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"Morgans" wrote in message ... I suspect the two cylinders with 4 pistons is a bit unconventional, and will have to work all the harder to prove itself. 2 pistons per cylinder is not unconventional in the stationary diesel world. Vaughn |
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On Mar 6, 2:44 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
If so, when is the last time you saw a direct drive 2 stroke aircraft engine? Not me. McCullough made two-stroke opposed four-bangers for miltary target drones in several different sizes. Many of those were sold surplus and found their way into several homebuilts and a lot of Bensen Gyrocopters. I once owned one; the vibration was awesome, as was the fuel consumption. http://www.combatairmuseum.org/engin...ch0-100-1.html http://media.photobucket.com/image/M...ctoshow026.jpg And here's a video of one powering a Hummel Bird: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITB_dxbCTUk Dan |
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