problems with downloading flights from 302

On Sep 2, 4:38*pm, 5Z wrote:
On Sep 2, 4:25*pm, Robert Holliday wrote:

I currently download my flights using 3UTPC256 which creates an IGC file. I
am applying for a state record on one of my flights and we sent the flight
file to our state record keeper in the IGC format. He is insisting that we
send him a CAI file which he claims is more secure. Can someone help me
figure out how to get this flight off of my 302 in CAI. PS: i have SEE-
YOU installed on the lap top and it puts an icon before the IGC file name
on every flight I download. Thanks.
bob holliday USA

There is no such thing as a CAI file on the 302. *It produces IGC
natively.

-Tom

And the IGC file produced from a 302 is actually more secure than
anything out of a Model 20/25 etc that produces a CAI file. The record
keeper simply validates a C302 file with the valicam2.exe file (not
the valicam that is for the Mode 20/25 etc.).

They probably just made a slip thinking this was an older Cambridge
(but I'd have hoped they look at the log file header etc. to be sure).

Darryl

"...The record keeper simply validates a C302 file with the valicam2.exe file..."

By the way, valicam2.exe will not run on a 64-bit computer (most new
ones are), and R-Track has no plans to produce a 64-bit version. And
Microsoft's 32-bit emulator will only run on the high-end version of
Windows 7. So the requirement to run valicam on igc files needs to go
away....

On Sep 3, 5:53*am, NG wrote:
"...The record *keeper simply validates a C302 file with the valicam2.exe file..."

By the way, valicam2.exe will not run on a 64-bit computer (most new
ones are), and R-Track has no plans to produce a 64-bit version. *And
Microsoft's 32-bit emulator will only run on the high-end version of
Windows 7. *So the requirement to run valicam on igc files needs to go
away....

And http://www.dosbox.com or other possible solutions don't work? I
guess if you only want to do this via the Microsoft virtual machine
route then don't buy the Windows 7 Crap Edition.

Sorry it's just impossible to have simultaneous thoughts of sympathy
and Microsoft Windows purchaser in my head at the same time. I run
valicam2 on my Mac....

Darryl

At 12:53 03 September 2010, NG wrote:
By the way, valicam2.exe will not run on a 64-bit computer (most new
ones are), and R-Track has no plans to produce a 64-bit version. And
Microsoft's 32-bit emulator will only run on the high-end version of
Windows 7. So the requirement to run valicam on igc files needs to go
away....


or the GNSS flight recorder spec needs updating to keep pace with the
march of time and computer OS updates....

http://www.fai.org/gliding/system/fi..._spec_gnss.pdf

The last update was in May 2008 so the older DOS based conv/vali/data
programs would still run but the push was obviously to move over to the
IGC Shell method for windows.

Looking on the IGC site http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp it
looks like cambridge don't supply a DLL to work with the IGC Shell either
so they are locking their customers into old DOS utilities.

As more people move to 64-bit then the IGC Shell also needs to support
this as the ability to run old DOS utilities becomes increasingly harder.
However at present Appendix 3 states:

"The DLLs must work with 32-bit MS Windows Operating Systems used in
types of PCs commonly used for downloading flight data shortly after
flight. This includes, but is not exclusive to, Windows XP and Vista home
and professional editions."

Validating traces is still a valid requirement so the tools to do so need
to keep up with times.

Nick H