POLL: Would you participate in a rec.aviation.piloting.moderated newsgroup?

On Sep 20, 4:51*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes:
While I do not have a lot of time to spare for it, I would be willing to
perform the "dirty work" necessary toward creation of a moderated version
of this newsgroup. It would co-exist with this unmoderated one.

Moderated newsgroups are typically ghost towns.

Usenet itself began to die out in large numbers
with the advent of Facebook. The groups that
still flourish usually have a group of friends that want
to stay together, and/or people who can stomach the
occasional and infrequent troll passing through.

---
Mark

Mark writes:

Usenet itself began to die out in large numbers with the advent of
Facebook.

Usenet has been on the decline for years, ever since alternative discussion
venues have become available, most of which do not require a special
interface. I haven't seen any acceleration in the decline because of Facebook,
though. Facebook itself may turn out to be a flash in the pan.

Moderated groups on Usenet have always been very quiet compared to unmoderated
groups. There's plenty of censorship elsewhere on the Net. An attraction of
Usenet is that it's still a bastion of free speech (relatively speaking).

On Sep 21, 12:13*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Mark writes:
Usenet itself began to die out in large numbers with the advent of
Facebook.

Usenet has been on the decline for years, ever since alternative discussion
venues have become available, most of which do not require a special
interface. I haven't seen any acceleration in the decline because of Facebook,
though.

Well I certainly have. How do I know this? Because I've
been in groups and the key members said, "Hey folks,
we're all going to face book. Then they did."

Facebook itself may turn out to be a flash in the pan.

I'd think the five hundred million people membership alone
would squelch any pan flashes.

Moderated groups on Usenet have always been very quiet compared to unmoderated
groups.

That's true. They commonly end up with just Fred and Joe.
Or, and this is interesting, I know of moderated groups that
became actual cults, where the leader gathers a flock,
dissenting or controversial opinions aren't tolerated, and
the moderator (a man) weeds out all the males and keeps
only a group of women he can manipulate.

There's plenty of censorship elsewhere on the Net. An attraction of
Usenet is that it's still a bastion of free speech (relatively speaking).

That's why nutcases like ari make it their personal toilet.

---
Mark

Mark writes:

Well I certainly have. How do I know this? Because I've
been in groups and the key members said, "Hey folks,
we're all going to face book. Then they did."

I haven't seen that in any of the groups I frequent.

I'd think the five hundred million people membership alone
would squelch any pan flashes.

The number of subscribers does not limit the speed with which they can all
move to something else.

Mark wrote:
On Sep 20, 4:51Â*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes:
While I do not have a lot of time to spare for it, I would be willing to
perform the "dirty work" necessary toward creation of a moderated version
of this newsgroup. It would co-exist with this unmoderated one.

Moderated newsgroups are typically ghost towns.

Usenet itself began to die out in large numbers
with the advent of Facebook. The groups that
still flourish usually have a group of friends that want
to stay together, and/or people who can stomach the
occasional and infrequent troll passing through.

USENET and Facebook serve two entirely different purposes.

Back when USENET was distributed over 2400 baud modems at night with UUCP to
save cost and you had to be "somebody" to get connected even as a leaf node,
there were virtually no trolls or the gibbering, drooling mental patients
that infest USENET now.

Once USENET went TCP/IP connected and any moron with a credit card could
access the "Internet", USENET turned to crap.

What I see happening is the mental patients abandoning USENET for the more
graphical stuff, in part because a lot of them are challenged by anything
that isn't point and click.

Hopefully the trend will continue and USENET will go back to be being a
place for serious discussion.

Quantity is not the same thing as quality.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Sep 20, 4:51*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes:
While I do not have a lot of time to spare for it, I would be willing to
perform the "dirty work" necessary toward creation of a moderated version
of this newsgroup. It would co-exist with this unmoderated one.

Moderated newsgroups are typically ghost towns.

Crickets and tumbleweed. The half-broken saloon
door creaks as dust laden wind blows. One lonely,
dirty, old unshaven pilot walks the weathered town
planks and crys out, "What about FAR 91.215?",
and it echos off the canyon walls, "two one five,
two one five". But there is no answer.

---
Mark

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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
While I do not have a lot of time to spare for it, I would be willing to
perform the "dirty work" necessary toward creation of a moderated version
of this newsgroup. It would co-exist with this unmoderated one.

But I need to know if there is a large enough potential audience of users
for such a group. So if you would be willing to carry on conversations on
such a group (keeping in mind that posts would be delayed) please post a
reply to this message so stating your willingness. I'm sorry that I cannot
say yet who might moderate, other than to point out that the technical
capability exists to support multiple moderators such that the most
lenient
judgement would prevail. If you must, assume the worst (that I am the sole
moderator.)

Since this newsgroup would continue to exist, and because competing web
forums already exist, there does not seem anything of interest that could
be said by those who might oppose creation of such a group.

The RFD would simply state that posts will be approved so long as they are
reasonably on-topic and non-inflammatory in the subjective judgement of
the
moderators. Worst case is that posters can always return to this non-
moderated group in the event their posts are rejected or they feel the
moderators have become too anal or otherwise lost their minds.

Sounds great :-)

Because a large number of former r.a.p users had migrated to POA
(http://www.pilotsofamerica.com) I also posted the poll there too.

By my count, there were 11 people (including myself) who explicitly stated
here, on POA, or via private e-mail that they would be willing to give such
a group a try. Posters that weren't explicit or clear in their intent, or
merely provided commentary, weren't counted.

The count is under my own set goal of 12. And I would have preferred more
than 20.

So I will not be initiating any efforts to create a r.a.p.m. If anyone else
wishes to try, I would be willing to provide support but I will not lead
such an effort.

Thanks to everyone who supported the idea.

On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:35:30 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:

Because a large number of former r.a.p users had migrated to POA
(http://www.pilotsofamerica.com) I also posted the poll there too.

By my count, there were 11 people (including myself) who explicitly stated
here, on POA, or via private e-mail that they would be willing to give such
a group a try. Posters that weren't explicit or clear in their intent, or
merely provided commentary, weren't counted.

The count is under my own set goal of 12. And I would have preferred more
than 20.

So I will not be initiating any efforts to create a r.a.p.m. If anyone else
wishes to try, I would be willing to provide support but I will not lead
such an effort.

Thanks to everyone who supported the idea.

Yeah, what a memory. There we were, shoulder to shoulder my hands in
my pants, on the football field, even though it was before a baseball
game, packed in like sardines. Me, my teddy bear and soon-to-be-dead
Tiger Boy, my pussycat.

The smell of cannabis filled the air. I don't smoke, it draws out my
manic depression.

This special night was different from the Grand Funk Railroad or the
Three Dog Night or Liberace concerts I never attended there. In my
mind, I was. On the football field, where they were awaiting to play
a Braves game. In May when NFL football didn't play.

1973 National Football League season
Regular season
Duration *September 16, 1973 - December 16, 1973*

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...973_NFL_season

At one point the lights went total black-out, then suddenly the entire
room and immediate area (closet) were drenched in blue light. I began
to sing "My Room" by the Beach Boys because I sure as **** wasn't at
Fulton County Stadium on May 4th, 1973.

Nothing but blue. Next came the "smoke" of dry ice. It was like London
fog in blue. I guess, never been out of South Carolina, The
Mississippi of the East.

Yes it was "Stairway to Heaven" time. Boy was I suprised
at what came next. Tiger Boy jumped on my Philco and killed the
turntable. this was the day I decided to kill him.

Suddenly I released hundreds and hundreds of white fleas! It didn't
quite work out as planned. Except for the few that momentarilly
circled, they basically just flew away. **** me again.

But there was no disappointment. Those first few notes of
"Stairway" took us where I needed to be. Up the stairs to the cool
breasts of my Mommy.

There, in the moment listening to the most famous song in the world. I
turned and looked at my Mommy, Judy ( "Judy blue eyes"), and she
said...

"Mark, get your goddamned hands off my tits and go to sleep. You have
school in the morning".

my son is a freak

---
Mark