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Old July 27th 11, 01:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Gary[_5_]
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Default Logan Contest Reporting

On Jul 26, 5:08*pm, Ron Gleason wrote:
On Jul 26, 12:18*pm, Berry wrote:

In article ,


*Berry wrote:


Good to hear this from Ken. Glad to hear also that the SSA did not
censor the reports. The question is: Who pulled down the previous day
reports from the SSA site?


Oh, never mind. I spoke too soon. Tim Taylor's post in the original
thread clears that up.


Thanks


I personally removed the reports from the SSA Official Contest site
after *ALL* the contest management folks agreed to the action. *We
discussed and understood the risk associated with this action.

Ron Gleason
15 Meter Nationals Scorer and Logan contest ground coordinator etc


So Ron, the section of Frank's report that the management found
objectionable has been pointed out....... but why it was thought to be
unacceptable has not been clearly defined or explained. That would
help us better understand the reason and possibly (or not) agree with
the decision. Personally, I think Frank breathes a lot of fresh air
into contest reports without resorting to "How many words can I write"
tactics.

Gary Adams GA2
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Old July 27th 11, 04:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
noel.wade
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Default Logan Contest Reporting

On Jul 27, 5:32*am, Gary wrote:

So Ron, the section of Frank's report that the management found
objectionable has been pointed out....... but why it was thought to be
unacceptable has not been clearly defined or explained. That would
help us better understand the reason and possibly (or not) agree with
the decision. Personally, I think Frank breathes a lot of fresh air
into contest reports without resorting to "How many words can I write"
tactics.

Gary Adams GA2


Gary - I believe it was explained in this message (in another RAS
thread):
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...9bbe41bddb6601

Enjoy,

--Noel

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Old July 28th 11, 03:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ron Gleason
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Default Logan Contest Reporting

On Jul 27, 6:32*am, Gary wrote:
On Jul 26, 5:08*pm, Ron Gleason wrote:









On Jul 26, 12:18*pm, Berry wrote:


In article ,


*Berry wrote:


Good to hear this from Ken. Glad to hear also that the SSA did not
censor the reports. The question is: Who pulled down the previous day
reports from the SSA site?


Oh, never mind. I spoke too soon. Tim Taylor's post in the original
thread clears that up.


Thanks


I personally removed the reports from the SSA Official Contest site
after *ALL* the contest management folks agreed to the action. *We
discussed and understood the risk associated with this action.


Ron Gleason
15 Meter Nationals Scorer and Logan contest ground coordinator etc


So Ron, the section of Frank's report that the management found
objectionable has been pointed out....... but why it was thought to be
unacceptable has not been clearly defined or explained. That would
help us better understand the reason and possibly (or not) agree with
the decision. Personally, I think Frank breathes a lot of fresh air
into contest reports without resorting to "How many words can I write"
tactics.

Gary Adams GA2


I believe that the decision process and reasoning behind the decision
was clearly spelled out by Tim Taylor's post. at
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...9bbe41bddb6601

I too enjoy reading Frank's reports however he was not asked nor
designated to be the 'contest reporter' and post on the official SSA
contest site. We have continued to encourage Frank to document his
experiences and let us know where the reports are so we can include
links on the SSA contest site.

Gary and Walt, I am sure we can debate this till our fingers fall off
so I am categorizing this as we can agree to disagree.

One day left of the 15 Meter Nationals, the scores are close and I am
looking forward to seeing the race won in the air today! BTW Frank is
in 2nd place going into the last day!

Ron Gleason

Ron Gleason
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Old July 27th 11, 07:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
M North
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Censorship is silly.
The idea of Unofficial vs. Official contest reports is silly.
We should be celebrating the wide range of passion, experience,
opinions, flying skills, and writing skills we have in this sport.

Don't remove something just because you disagree with it. Add your
disagreement to the conversation and let everyone read both opinions.

I don't know Frank, but I want to read more from him, not less. And I
don't want to have to go looking in some special place to find his
stories.
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Old July 28th 11, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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On 7/27/2011 11:00 AM, M North wrote:
Censorship is silly.
The idea of Unofficial vs. Official contest reports is silly.
We should be celebrating the wide range of passion, experience,
opinions, flying skills, and writing skills we have in this sport.

Don't remove something just because you disagree with it. Add your
disagreement to the conversation and let everyone read both opinions.

I don't know Frank, but I want to read more from him, not less. And I
don't want to have to go looking in some special place to find his
stories.


Sorry, I don't think the official contest reports on the SSA site should
be turned into an "open mike". RAS, blogs, and more can fill the wide
range you desire.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
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Old July 29th 11, 12:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Pat Russell[_2_]
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I don't think the official contest reports on the SSA site should
be turned into an "open mike"....


Agreed.

But I think that, as the editorial authority, Contest Management has
the power to

1. censor
2. edit
3. publish an alternative viewpoint

in reverse order of desirability.

-Pat
 




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