Commanche alternatives?

Lyle wrote:

IMO whats going to happen is that we are going to put a stripped down
version of the commanche into service, minus all the crap that dosent
work/dont need, and with a change in the skin material of the aircraft
to make it alot cheaper. Then reincorporate the technology when it
becomes workable.

Or we could take a Cobra and incorporate the Comanches technology into
it.

As the DoD transcript clearly states, they're going to put the Comanche's
avionics capability into the Block III Apaches.

Guy

I can't imaging the Apache being current in a very few years, not
without major upgrades...

Um ... why?

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:24:18 -0600, "t_mark" wrote:

I can't imaging the Apache being current in a very few years, not
without major upgrades...

Um ... why?


The A model is way behind, the D is better but needs sensor suite,
avionics upgrades.

Then theres the supportability issues the MMH/Fh are large by
comparision to latter designs.

Thats just some areas that I know about, I'm quite confident there
are many others.

cheers

John Cook wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:24:18 -0600, "t_mark" wrote:

I can't imaging the Apache being current in a very few years, not
without major upgrades...

Um ... why?


The A model is way behind, the D is better but needs sensor suite,
avionics upgrades.

See the transcript, Block III Apaches.

Guy

John Cook wrote in message . ..
What will the US use?

There is obviously a operational need for an attack helicopter.

How about licensed production of the Tigre!!

I can't imaging the Apache being current in a very few years, not
without major upgrades...

Cheers

The days of the attack helo are numbered. The US Army is going with
the Hunter and Raven UAVs plus future UCAVs.

Photo of Raven:
http://147.71.210.21/fm4480/chpt12/raven/uravn_p1.gif

Not surprising since UCAVs can do a better job, are cheaper, unmanned,
and can (in the future) carry " Swarmers"- KKVs (Kinetic Kill
Vehicles) that attack everything like exploding locusts.

BTW, Germany is going the Swarmer route in the future

Rob

(robert arndt) wrote:

The days of the attack helo are numbered. The US Army is going with
the Hunter and Raven UAVs plus future UCAVs.

Photo of Raven:
http://147.71.210.21/fm4480/chpt12/raven/uravn_p1.gif

Hmmm...note the 6-inch diameter fuselage boom tube (probably
6061 T6 aluminum or something similiar).

Yup, damn sure looks like an ultralight to me!

(Relax...that giant sucking sound you hear are just the deflating
egos of the "Mavericks" and "Killer Chicks" everywhere...)

In article ,
Mike Marron wrote:

(robert arndt) wrote:

The days of the attack helo are numbered. The US Army is going with
the Hunter and Raven UAVs plus future UCAVs.

Photo of Raven:
http://147.71.210.21/fm4480/chpt12/raven/uravn_p1.gif

Hmmm...note the 6-inch diameter fuselage boom tube (probably
6061 T6 aluminum or something similiar).

Yup, damn sure looks like an ultralight to me!

(Relax...that giant sucking sound you hear are just the deflating
egos of the "Mavericks" and "Killer Chicks" everywhere...)

....and the crunching sound you're going to hear is the machines hitting
the ground after real pilots start blowing the little critters out of
the air...

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Chad Irby wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

Hmmm...note the 6-inch diameter fuselage boom tube (probably
6061 T6 aluminum or something similiar).

Yup, damn sure looks like an ultralight to me!

(Relax...that giant sucking sound you hear are just the deflating
egos of the "Mavericks" and "Killer Chicks" everywhere...)

...and the crunching sound you're going to hear is the machines hitting
the ground after real pilots start blowing the little critters out of
the air...

"Little critters" is right. Yeah boy, I with ya!




Trikes Rule.

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:05:52 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

...and the crunching sound you're going to hear is the machines hitting
the ground after real pilots start blowing the little critters out of
the air...

It only takes one.

In article ,
Rune B?rsj? wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:05:52 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

...and the crunching sound you're going to hear is the machines hitting
the ground after real pilots start blowing the little critters out of
the air...

It only takes one.

Well, it only takes one that *works*.

And even the most optimistic folks are telling that it's going to be a
generation or so before there's an effective air-to-air dogfighting UCAV.

--
cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.