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On Dec 17, 11:01*am, John Cochrane
wrote: It's interesting to see there is enough Club Class activity without any promotion or meaningful recognition. *It appears the true lack of interest, activity, progression and growth for the US Club Class lies within the Rules Committee. Sean Franke US Club Class Team 2010 & 2012 No "promotion or meaningful recognition?" World team selection is restricted to club class gliders. There is a separate club class scoresheet. We have club class regionals. It would be a much more effective post if you said what it is exactly that you want the rules committee to do that we are not doing rather than just hurl snarky comments. I presume the answer is "club class nationals" as opposed to just "club class scoresheet and club class world team selection." But 14 gliders is not enough for a viable new class. So, again presuming, are you arguing that this small difference in scoresheet will make dozens of additional pilots appear, enough to overcome the consequent destruction of sports class? Really? Are there really dozens of pilots, not now participating in sports or club regionals or nationals, who are waiting breathlessly for a fully separate contest? Ok, look up the numbers, make the case. You could start by looking up the seeding list and coming up with a list of people you think are qualified but are not coming to sports nationals because current club recognition is inadequate. (The argument that they don't even come to club regionals because a separate scoresheet and world team selection at nationals is inadequate seems pretty far fetched.) "build it and they will come", by some sort of magic, is not enough. If this isn't what you're arguing, what is it you want? Participation is second only to safety on the RC priorities. "Club" class gliders are by far the least represented in contest soaring. I'm putting together the numbers now, Over the last two years only 17 out of the 711 "club" gliders on the FAA database showed up. We want to do anything we can to get these people out. So, support for club class at RC is very strong. But so is support for sports class and anything else that gets people to fly. We need to work together to find a solution that creates a viable, 20-30 glider minimum, club class while also not driving away the other 1/2 to 2/3 of the gliders that show up at sports contests. We're working on that. Do you have productive and concrete suggestions? The 2011 poll had an open ended questionnaire about what was keeping people from coming to contests. Many pilots took a lot of time to write us lots of thoughtful suggestions. Time and distance were by far the biggest barriers. Cost is mentioned as well. There was not a groundswell of "I would fly contests if only there were a pure club class nationals, not just this separate scoresheet business." John Cochrane Are you suggesting there is "not much Club Class activity" because only 17/711 show up? I suppose it then can be argued that the World Class is most popular because most show up at the National level? Is there really any applicable logic in either statement? Handicap restriction and a separate score sheet was certainly a step in the right direction. I applaud the RC for taking that step. However, there remains no official US Club Class. If you look back to an earlier post you'll find productive and concrete suggestions. Will fewer pilots show up to a restructured Sports Class (Club/Modern)? Unlikely. Will more show up because of an official Club Class? Unknown, that remains to be seen. I think there is growth potential without "driving away" gliders by restructuring. The RC should consider restructuring the Sports Class nationals into the Club & Modern Class Nationals with two distinct score sheets. Some Club Class enthusiasts have even expresses interest in adopting international rules. Arguably this could produce the most prepared pilot for World level competition. Sean Franke |
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