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Bizzare findings of Flight 93 crash in PA on 9-11



 
 
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Old April 1st 04, 04:30 AM
mellstrr
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"Retro Empire Deities" wrote in message
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In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Well "vaporized" is what he said and he's the expert, not you.


And how is a funeral director an expert on plane crashes?


He doesn't claim to be an "expert" on "plane crashes". He states what he saw
at the crash site, offers up some tidbits regarding his experiences during
the identification process, and hypothesizes that "we'll never know who
really stormed the cockpit".

Why are some of you so unnerved by this article that you're going out of
your way to derail the conversation?

Funny how you "Bush apologist-types" all crawl outta the woodwork every time
reasonable queries and articles about Flight 93 show up in these newsgroups.
One would think the very subject makes you exceedingly nervous.

You do realize that the more you do it, the more I'm gonna re-post the
original article. Think of all that extra exposure you're helping it get!

mellstrr--nah, that wouldn't have occurred to you--too simple...
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Sept. 11 crash remains shrouded in mystery, Pennsylvania coroner says

TIFFANY CRAWFORD Canadian Press Monday, March 29, 2004

VANCOUVER (CP) - The fate of United Airlines Flight 93, the last of
the four hijacked planes to crash on Sept. 11, 2001 remains shrouded
in mystery and controversy. The famous cell phone calls from brave
passengers on the plane that crashed in a Pennsylvania field painted a
heroic story of people storming the cockpit to sacrifice themselves
for others. The chief coroner who investigated the crash scene
recorded a less appealing different image.

"There was, in my conclusion, no way we could ever know who they were
that charged that cockpit," Wallace Miller told students at the B.C.
Institute of Technology.

The American coroner was spoke at the B.C. Institute of Technology in
Burnaby Saturday. He detailed the grisly task he had recovering the
remains of crash victims for their families.

Miller, the director of a family-run funeral home and elected county
coroner for Somerset, Pa., said only eight per cent of the wreckage
was recovered. Everything else was vaporised, he said.

"We found remains 50 feet deep," he said of the massive crater the
plane left on impact.

The debris field spanned about 2.5 square kilometres of wooded area.
Victim recovery efforts were hampered because most of the salvageable
human remains were in the treetops. snip

http://www.canada.com/news/national/...0-4099-a9f4-e2
eeafa96b46

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Old April 1st 04, 11:27 PM
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Funny how you "Bush apologist-types" all crawl outta the woodwork every time
reasonable queries and articles about Flight 93 show up in these newsgroups.


I addressed every issue in detail. Interesting how you ignored it.....


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old March 31st 04, 05:33 AM
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First thing - the cowardice of an anonymous poster is noted.
Second - the ignorance of this poster regarding airplane crashes. The
737 that crashed at Colorado Springs (ISTR) about 5 years ago while
half way around base leg and somehow (rotor cloud? full rudder jam?)
went in at about 90 degrees and very damn little was left. And it was
slow!
Flight 93 went in, inverted, as I remember, at a steep angle and a
high rate of knots, well over 450. As usual, it made a big hole and
blew tiny pieces all over. Remember, it still had most of its fuel
load on board. Next time do some research before coming up with your
very own pet theory.
And yes, I have investigated aircraft accidents, four of them. One was
a very good friend and his F104 disintegrated on impact, with him in
it, at only about 200 knots and close to level flight.
Walt BJ
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Old March 31st 04, 03:41 PM
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"WaltBJ" wrote in message
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First thing - the cowardice of an anonymous poster is noted.
Second - the ignorance of this poster regarding airplane crashes. The
737 that crashed at Colorado Springs (ISTR) about 5 years ago while
half way around base leg and somehow (rotor cloud? full rudder jam?)
went in at about 90 degrees and very damn little was left. And it was
slow!


Walt BJ


Walt,

That five years or so was March 1991.

Tex


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Old March 31st 04, 02:32 AM
BUFDRVR
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WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes cause 92% of the plane to
VAPORIZE??


Since their full of fuel and headed, under power, straight at the ground. This
crash site was like no other in history, including several cases of spatial
disorientation.

And how did most of the human remains end up in treetops?


Well, I find it hard to believe *most* remains wound up in the trees, but if
the aircraft began to come apart before impact due to structural failure
(because of severe overspeed), its highly possible that some victims exited the
aircraft prior to impact at an extremely high rate of speed. Not unlikely that
their remains would be shot up in the air, in fact that has happened in
numerous aviation accidents. In addition, even those that remained with parts
of the fuselage, upon impact at high speed, could be ejected *up* and away from
the impact point(s). This is also not uncommon.

Has that ever happened before? Sounds to me like there were
explosives on board that went off on impact.


You wouldn't need any explosives to increase the damage from impacting the
ground at or near mach, in fact I'm betting under 500 pounds of explosives
would have made no appreciable difference.

The
american press won't touch anything that contradicts the "official"
story on 9-11.


I fail to see how this story contradicts the facts at all.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old March 31st 04, 05:23 AM
Fredric L. Rice
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

http://www.canada.com/news/national/...4-e2eeafa96b46


WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes cause 92% of the plane to
VAPORIZE??


Almost always when it's done at speed and in soggy ground. There have
been airliner crashes that have totally disappeared into swampy areas
where only small percentages of plane remains -- leave alone human
remains -- have been recovered.

F = MA always.

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