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Old May 24th 04, 02:35 PM
raymond o'hara
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!




celebrating with machineguns in a war zone will get you killed . the same
thing happened in af-g-stan , they have to lose that habit . not to mention
the thousands wounded and killed a every year by these celebrations ,


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Old May 24th 04, 05:09 PM
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"raymond o'hara" wrote in message
news:z_lsc.52835$gr.5091710@attbi_s52...

"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!




celebrating with machineguns in a war zone will get you killed . the same
thing happened in af-g-stan , they have to lose that habit . not to mention
the thousands wounded and killed a every year by these celebrations ,


Yeah, the nerve of those people.....having customs like that in their own
country! Where do they get off doing stuff like that?
(^-^)))

George Z.


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Old May 24th 04, 05:14 PM
raymond o'hara
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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"raymond o'hara" wrote in message
news:z_lsc.52835$gr.5091710@attbi_s52...

"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the

very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!




celebrating with machineguns in a war zone will get you killed . the

same
thing happened in af-g-stan , they have to lose that habit . not to

mention
the thousands wounded and killed a every year by these celebrations ,


Yeah, the nerve of those people.....having customs like that in their own
country! Where do they get off doing stuff like that?
(^-^)))

George Z.



it's fine in peacetime idiot, but firing mg's in a war zone will get you
killed .


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Old May 24th 04, 08:02 PM
George Z. Bush
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"raymond o'hara" wrote in message
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
...

"raymond o'hara" wrote in message
news:z_lsc.52835$gr.5091710@attbi_s52...

"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the

very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!




celebrating with machineguns in a war zone will get you killed . the

same
thing happened in af-g-stan , they have to lose that habit . not to

mention
the thousands wounded and killed a every year by these celebrations ,


Yeah, the nerve of those people.....having customs like that in their own
country! Where do they get off doing stuff like that?
(^-^)))

George Z.



it's fine in peacetime idiot, but firing mg's in a war zone will get you
killed .


Yeah, us idiots never know when our leg is being pulled....so, welcome to the
club, pal! You did such a great job with your application, we're re-doing the
rules and making you a charter member.

George Z.




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Old May 25th 04, 04:27 PM
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In message Kjosc.108968$iF6.9831270@attbi_s02, raymond o'hara
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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Yeah, the nerve of those people.....having customs like that in their own
country! Where do they get off doing stuff like that?
(^-^)))


it's fine in peacetime idiot, but firing mg's in a war zone will get you
killed .


It's not a "war zone" - major combat operations ended last year. Your
President said so, I saw him on the televisualiser gadget thingy,
standing on one of his big grey war canoes.

What, was he wrong or something? Isn't anyone going to tell him?

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Old May 25th 04, 06:37 PM
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In message , "Paul J. Adam" wrote:

it's fine in peacetime idiot, but firing mg's in a war zone will get you
killed .


It's not a "war zone"


??????

- major combat operations ended last year.


ISTR that they did. This is not the modern British Army (as it appears as
things are judged "over there." A few companies skirmishing with small groups
of insurgents hardly constitute a major battle. There has been no large scale
(corps/army) maneuvering, since the fall of Baghdad.

Your
President said so, I saw him on the televisualiser gadget thingy,
standing on one of his big grey war canoes.


They aren't his, they are the U.S. public's. We are a republic, remember?

What, was he wrong or something? Isn't anyone going to tell him?


For "he" you should have written "I," and, yes, you are, or are you attempting
to sell the notion that guerilla war is not war, therefore, a "warzone" cannot
exist? You have really stretched some of your arguing points beyond the point
of credulity of late.

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Michael P. Reed

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Old May 25th 04, 07:00 PM
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"Michael P. Reed" wrote in message
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In message , "Paul J. Adam" wrote:

it's fine in peacetime idiot, but firing mg's in a war zone will get

you
killed .


It's not a "war zone"


??????

- major combat operations ended last year.


ISTR that they did. This is not the modern British Army (as it appears as
things are judged "over there." A few companies skirmishing with small

groups
of insurgents hardly constitute a major battle. There has been no large

scale
(corps/army) maneuvering, since the fall of Baghdad.

Your
President said so, I saw him on the televisualiser gadget thingy,
standing on one of his big grey war canoes.


They aren't his, they are the U.S. public's. We are a republic, remember?

What, was he wrong or something? Isn't anyone going to tell him?


For "he" you should have written "I," and, yes, you are, or are you

attempting
to sell the notion that guerilla war is not war, therefore, a "warzone"

cannot
exist? You have really stretched some of your arguing points beyond the

point
of credulity of late.


Watch out--he is liable to take your earlier statement, "There has been no
large scale
(corps/army) maneuvering, since the fall of Baghdad" and remove the last
phrase of it, then toss the resulting paraphrase back at you and claim you
said there was never any large-scale maneuvering, period. It would not be
the first time he has done so. Even more blatantly than this attempt to
revise the character of Bush's actual speech on the USS Abraham Lincoln,
which included, "Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the
USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq
have ended...And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing
that country...We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We're bringing order to
parts of that country that remain dangerous...In the battle of Afghanistan,
we destroyed the Taliban, many terrorists and the camps where they
trained...Yet we also have dangerous work to complete." Notice how he has
latched onto the "major combat operations in Iraq have ended" part and tried
to twist it (rather unrealistically, as you noted) to his own purposes,
while leaving out those parts about difficult and dangerous work ahead of
us, bringing order to dangerous areas, etc., that don't suit his particular
goal at present.

Brooks


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Michael P. Reed



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Old May 25th 04, 10:44 PM
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In article , Kevin Brooks
wrote:

oh, well; bang goes my ration of one off-topic post per month


snip of entirely reasonable points about how Bush's remarks have been
brutally edited

while leaving out those parts about difficult and dangerous work ahead of
us, bringing order to dangerous areas, etc., that don't suit his particular
goal at present.


Never mind that, Mr Brooks. It is appallingly apparent that the US, for
reasons that are not at all clear, is screwing things up in Iraq. It
was never going to be easy (as G Bush said himself, in what I snipped
above). Now I know as a matter of personal experience that the US is
by no means unsupplied with intelligent and indeed honourable officers
and NCOs: what the hell is going wrong? The Abu Ghraib thing was
disgusting, but the US Army is in the midst of cleaning out its own
house (although the cost of those shameful digital photos will yet be
paid by honest troopers in the future); what about the several
nonsenses around Fallujah? Political **** showering combat commanders?
I don't know, but none of it looks good. And in that part of the world,
as in many others, how you look can be as important as how you do.

The wedding party.... well, if Iraqis in what is still something of a
war zone will insist on their fireworks, they shouldn't be entirely
surprised if the shooting is misinterpreted. Even so, clumsy is the
best that can be said for the Good Guys.

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Old May 25th 04, 07:44 PM
Paul J. Adam
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In message , Michael P. Reed
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In message , "Paul J. Adam" wrote:
It's not a "war zone"


??????


Many keep saying so.

- major combat operations ended last year.


ISTR that they did. This is not the modern British Army (as it appears as
things are judged "over there." A few companies skirmishing with small groups
of insurgents hardly constitute a major battle. There has been no large scale
(corps/army) maneuvering, since the fall of Baghdad.


So a virgin could walk the length and breadth of Iraq with her bosom
full of gold, and none might raise a hand to her?

What, was he wrong or something? Isn't anyone going to tell him?


For "he" you should have written "I," and, yes, you are, or are you attempting
to sell the notion that guerilla war is not war, therefore, a "warzone" cannot
exist?


I'm not the one trying to claim that Iraq is a peaceful haven of
tranquility with just the last handful of insurgents to be winkled
out...

You have really stretched some of your arguing points beyond the point
of credulity of late.


Why? I'm just asking for some consistency. One minute it's a successful
and mostly peaceful occupation: the next, it's a furious insurgency with
guerillas behind every rock.

I'm willing to believe one, or the other, but not both at the same time.




--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk
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Old May 26th 04, 01:51 AM
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote in
news
In message , Michael P.
Reed
writes
In message , "Paul J. Adam"
wrote:
It's not a "war zone"


??????


Many keep saying so.

- major combat operations ended last year.


ISTR that they did. This is not the modern British Army (as it
appears as things are judged "over there." A few companies
skirmishing with small groups of insurgents hardly constitute a major
battle. There has been no large scale (corps/army) maneuvering, since
the fall of Baghdad.


So a virgin could walk the length and breadth of Iraq with her bosom
full of gold, and none might raise a hand to her?


Women cannot do that in ANY Moslem country.Not if her bosom is exposed
enough for that gold to be seen.Virgin or not.

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Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
 




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