F15E/1941

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(Vicente Vazquez) wrote:

I guess the simple sight of "birds" like a pair of F-15E's with U.S.
markings would:

There is the minor detail that US markings were different in 1941. Yes,
they might see USAF. "What's that?"

1) Surely make the Japs realize that surprise had been lost. No "Tora
Tora Tora".
2) Probably make the Jap CO think that there were others "birds like
that" at Pearl and that he better call his planes back. Hehe. Who
would wnat to go to war, in 1941, with a country that had weapons like
the Strike Eagle? :-)

Just seeing them doesn't really give any idea of their capabilities,
other than they are FAST.


1 + 2 = No need to strike the carriers. Just the sight of those Eagles
would
be enough to make the Japs **** in their pants and sail back to Japan
as
fast as they could. :-)

A series of sonic booms would sure as hell wake up Pearl Harbor.
Is a Beagle able to carry Harpoons?
BTW I was one surprised 104 driver when my AIM9B growled nice and loud
at a C47. Coming in from the portside low it had a good look at #1's
exhaust stack. But then it was first conceived as a kamikaze-killer.
Walt BJ

On 1 Jun 2004 20:05:13 -0700, (WaltBJ) wrote:

A series of sonic booms would sure as hell wake up Pearl Harbor.
Is a Beagle able to carry Harpoons?

The Korean ones will carry the SLAM-ER but the impression I get is
that your standard E can't. AFAIK the B-52 is the only USAF aircraft
that can carry them.



BTW I was one surprised 104 driver when my AIM9B growled nice and loud
at a C47. Coming in from the portside low it had a good look at #1's
exhaust stack. But then it was first conceived as a kamikaze-killer.
Walt BJ

Scott Ferrin wrote in message . ..
On 1 Jun 2004 20:05:13 -0700, (WaltBJ) wrote:

A series of sonic booms would sure as hell wake up Pearl Harbor.
Is a Beagle able to carry Harpoons?

The Korean ones will carry the SLAM-ER but the impression I get is
that your standard E can't. AFAIK the B-52 is the only USAF aircraft
that can carry them.

F-15E can carry SLAM ER. In fact, an F-15E is being used to do SLAM
ER integration testing while the F-15K is in work. But there is a lot
of inter-service politics and the Air Force does not want SLAM ER on
F-15E because it is paying a lot of money to develop the similar JASSM
missile. If SLAM ER was put on F-15E, it could be called JSLAM-ER and
Congress might mandate that the superior JSLAM-ER, developed by the
Navy, replace JASSM. The Air Force is still smarting from the Navy's
Tomahawk taking over some of the land attack role, and it doesn't want
the Navy SLAM-ER to repeat that embarassment.

BTW I was one surprised 104 driver when my AIM9B growled nice and loud
at a C47. Coming in from the portside low it had a good look at #1's
exhaust stack. But then it was first conceived as a kamikaze-killer.
Walt BJ

Scott Ferrin wrote in message . ..
On 1 Jun 2004 20:05:13 -0700, (WaltBJ) wrote:

A series of sonic booms would sure as hell wake up Pearl Harbor.
Is a Beagle able to carry Harpoons?

The Korean ones will carry the SLAM-ER but the impression I get is
that your standard E can't. AFAIK the B-52 is the only USAF aircraft
that can carry them.

F-15E can carry SLAM ER. In fact, an F-15E is being used to do SLAM
ER integration testing while the F-15K is in work. But there is a lot
of inter-service politics and the Air Force does not want SLAM ER on
F-15E because it is paying a lot of money to develop the similar JASSM
missile. If SLAM ER was put on F-15E, it could be called JSLAM-ER and
Congress might mandate that the superior JSLAM-ER, developed by the
Navy, replace JASSM. The Air Force is still smarting from the Navy's
Tomahawk taking over some of the land attack role, and it doesn't want
the Navy SLAM-ER to repeat that embarassment.

BTW I was one surprised 104 driver when my AIM9B growled nice and loud
at a C47. Coming in from the portside low it had a good look at #1's
exhaust stack. But then it was first conceived as a kamikaze-killer.
Walt BJ

Scott Ferrin wrote in message . ..
On 1 Jun 2004 20:05:13 -0700, (WaltBJ) wrote:

A series of sonic booms would sure as hell wake up Pearl Harbor.
Is a Beagle able to carry Harpoons?

The Korean ones will carry the SLAM-ER but the impression I get is
that your standard E can't. AFAIK the B-52 is the only USAF aircraft
that can carry them.

F-15E can carry SLAM ER. In fact, an F-15E is being used to do SLAM
ER integration testing while the F-15K is in work. But there is a lot
of inter-service politics and the Air Force does not want SLAM ER on
F-15E because it is paying a lot of money to develop the similar JASSM
missile. If SLAM ER was put on F-15E, it could be called JSLAM-ER and
Congress might mandate that the superior JSLAM-ER, developed by the
Navy, replace JASSM. The Air Force is still smarting from the Navy's
Tomahawk taking over some of the land attack role, and it doesn't want
the Navy SLAM-ER to repeat that embarassment.

BTW I was one surprised 104 driver when my AIM9B growled nice and loud
at a C47. Coming in from the portside low it had a good look at #1's
exhaust stack. But then it was first conceived as a kamikaze-killer.
Walt BJ

WaltBJ wrote:

A series of sonic booms would sure as hell wake up Pearl Harbor.
Is a Beagle able to carry Harpoons?
BTW I was one surprised 104 driver when my AIM9B growled nice and loud
at a C47. Coming in from the portside low it had a good look at #1's
exhaust stack. But then it was first conceived as a kamikaze-killer.

IIRR, the very first a/c shot down by an AIM-9 in test (by Wally Schirra
IIRC) was a Hellcat drone. And all those SAM-7s using uncooled seekers
drove the piston-engined O-1s and O-2s (not to mention Spads), up to much
higher altitudes in Vietnam in 1972, making their utility as FACs far
less.

Guy

"Vicente Vazquez" wrote in message
om...
I guess the simple sight of "birds" like a pair of F-15E's with U.S.
markings would:

I doubt it. The US markings in WW2 don't look like what we have now.

From: "Ragnar"


"Vicente Vazquez" wrote in message
. com...
I guess the simple sight of "birds" like a pair of F-15E's with U.S.
markings would:

I doubt it. The US markings in WW2 don't look like what we have now.

To be more practical it would be better to to use aircraft the technology
available in 1941 could reproduce since you might block the attack on Pearl but
that wouldn't stop the war. A B-36 would make more sence.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired