Could the Press Grow a Spine?

Fact: Kerry went to war. Bush didn't.


Ed mentioned Orwell. It's orwellian to belittle the hero and laud the shirker.

Walt

From: (ArtKramr)


Fact: Kerry went to war. Bush didn't.


Arthur Kramer

I went to war too. Clinton lied to ROTC to get out of it. Dean lied to a draft
board to get out of it. Cheney was too busy. Bush was in the guard. Kerry was
in the Navy.

What, in the name of all that is holy does, this have to do with their plotical
histories?

The only ones that should be excluded from public office are Clinton and Dean
since he admitted to committing felonies: providing fraudulent medical
"evidence" to his draft board and smoking marijuana which was a felony at the
time.

Dan, U.S. Air Foce, retired

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Fact: Kerry went to war. Bush didn't.


Fact: Kerry used an unearned Purple Heart to get out of Vietnam after
serving just a third of his tour. Bush didn't.

"Jarg" wrote:

I think you are wasting your words. Walt's postings are about creating left
wing propaganda, not facts.

Jarg

What a mental midget you are Jarg. There are alien traitors here,
like Minyard and Irby. There are passive, pliant betamales aplenty
too many to mention. There are servile knee-benders like Rasimus, and
hysterical shriekers like Ferrin &. You are are the thickest brick on
the block, though. No wonder they laughingly use you dumb ass as a
race-traitor. Moron.

Grantland

"Grantland" wrote in message
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"Jarg" wrote:

I think you are wasting your words. Walt's postings are about creating
left
wing propaganda, not facts.

Jarg

What a mental midget you are Jarg. There are alien traitors here,
like Minyard and Irby. There are passive, pliant betamales aplenty
too many to mention. There are servile knee-benders like Rasimus, and
hysterical shriekers like Ferrin &. You are are the thickest brick on
the block, though. No wonder they laughingly use you dumb ass as a
race-traitor. Moron.

Grantland

Par for the course for you. How sad your life must be.

Jarg

I've twice posted a list of more than twenty Navy officers from the
Swift boat program who discredited Kerry's record.

And I've posted his fitrep. I'll do her again:

"In a combat environment often requiring independent, decisive action LTJG
(Lieutenant Junior Grade) Kerry was unsurpassed. He constantly reviewed tactics
and lessons learned in river operations and applied his experience at every
opportunity. On one occasion while in tactical command of a three boat
operation his units were taken under fire from ambush. LTJG Kerry rapidly
assessed the situation and ordered his units to turn directly into the ambush.
This decision resulted in routing the attackers with several enemy KIAs.

LTJG Kerry emerges as the acknowledged leader in his peer group. His bearing
and appearance are above reproach. He has of his own volition learned the
Vietnamese language and is instrumental in the successful Vietnamese training
programs.

During this period of this report LTJG Kerry has been awarded the Silver Star
medal, the Bronze Star medal, the Purple Heart medal (2nd and 3rd awards).

18 Dec 1969"

http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

Maybe those guys were just jealous.


And besides, no matter what those swift boat officers say, Bush has NO right to
say squat because he didn't serve.

Walt

From: (WalterM140)
Date: 6/25/2004 12:08 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

I've twice posted a list of more than twenty Navy officers from the
Swift boat program who discredited Kerry's record.

And I've posted his fitrep. I'll do her again:


Walt, if you had ever served a day in the military you'd know fitreps, OERs,
citations etc are generally inflated. If you try to write a report over a
specified period, in the case of OERs usually a year that includes all the
notible actions of the reportee you'd be writing a book. Therefore you pick 2
or 3 actions or events and pad the hell out of them.

I don't know about the Navy, but I do know an APR 8 (out of 9) or the
equivillent rating in an OER is considered career stopper in the Air Force.


And besides, no matter what those swift boat officers say, Bush has NO right
to
say squat because he didn't serve.

Walt


He's a U.S. citizen and can say what he wants. Show me where he personally has
denigrated Kerry's military service.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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And besides, no matter what those swift boat officers say, Bush has
NO right to say squat because he didn't serve.


You're confusing Bush with Clinton. Bush did serve in the military, it was
Clinton that did not.

We have repeatedly demonstrated to you in this forum evidence that
Bush had five years and three months of six year commitment.

What I know is that there is a 16 month break in his service, and that's a
no-no.

Walt

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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What I know is that there is a 16 month break in his service, and that's a
no-no.


No, you don't know that, you believe that. There is a difference.