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Letter to the FAA
At 14:09 25 May 2017, Charlie M. UH & 002 owner/pilot wrote:
Make the numbers matter, do a world list, I wonder if we would even break a dozen broken ships even worldwide.....let alone fatalities. Open canopies probably break more gliders. That might not help much. I have seen a schweizer hook on a tug in the UK but not lately, I have seen lots of TOST hooks. The other part of this was ensuring that the release in the tug is as close as possible to the throttle, in the UK this is mandatory, mainly as the result of a tug upset in which a good friend of mine is killed. If there are people in gliding who are more concerned with commercial concerns than the safety of pilots, that is a real problem. If the problem cannot be solved voluntarily what is left. If this is the case then goon on yer Walt, make them have it! |
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I agree completely, to some there is more concern with maintaining a profitable commercial operation and little to none with tug pilot safety. Would it matter if there was one or one hundred tug pilot fatalities due to the current use of a system which is documented as prone to failure in SSA, SSF and FAA documents? I find it telling that Burt Compton didn't not respond when i pointed out verbatim the comments on the SSF website. I'm willing to engage in a dialogue. The BGA seems to have teeth and uses them. The SSF and SSA obviously have no teeth nor a willingness to use whatever influence it has to correct this potentially deadly situation. I have much research left to do but what I have so far supports my position. There also is a question as to the use of the CG hook for aero tow. I see where New Zealand has recommended aero tow not be done with other than a nose hook and Germany had required special training for pilots flying CG hooks on aerotow. I am not advocating the restriction of the CG hook, this was not a contributing factor in my case but certainly seems to have been in others. Walt |
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Letter to the FAA
On Tue, 30 May 2017 14:24:11 +0100, Walt Connelly
wrote: and Germany had required special training for pilots flying CG hooks on aerotow. .... which isn't required anymore. Regards from Germany Andreas |
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That being said I understand from some highly reliable sources that the intended use of the CG hook was for ground launches. If you think of where a string is attached to a KITE, it is not attached to the nose, it is attached where it is attached for a reason. However it is not my intention to cause any problems for the CG hook glider pilots out there....rather to give a fighting chance to the tow pilot to release quickly and effectively when the need arises. I have heard from tow pilots who will not tow a CG hook glider with a Schweizer on the tow plane. I may be "Persona Non Grata" in the soaring world but I feel compelled to move forward in this endeavor. I have much work left to do. Walt |
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Letter to the FAA
Nice discussion but.....
you are not considering the tow planes that have a winch system for tows. There is a winch inside the fuselage that retracts the tow line after each tow. At Williams they have a guillotine sytem to cut the tow line if needed. For a dedicated tow plane this seems to be the most logical solution. Really saves wear on the tow rope and provides a very predictable way to "cut the cord" when needed. |
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Letter to the FAA
On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 8:43:09 PM UTC-4, Walt Connelly wrote:
Andreas Maurer;947904 Wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2017 14:24:11 +0100, Walt Connelly wrote: - and Germany had required special training for pilots flying CG hooks on aerotow. - .... which isn't required anymore. Regards from Germany Andreas Thank you Andreas, I do believe I used the past tense "had." That being said I understand from some highly reliable sources that the intended use of the CG hook was for ground launches. If you think of where a string is attached to a KITE, it is not attached to the nose, it is attached where it is attached for a reason. However it is not my intention to cause any problems for the CG hook glider pilots out there....rather to give a fighting chance to the tow pilot to release quickly and effectively when the need arises. I have heard from tow pilots who will not tow a CG hook glider with a Schweizer on the tow plane. I may be "Persona Non Grata" in the soaring world but I feel compelled to move forward in this endeavor. I have much work left to do. Walt Well, you could do something positive then. For instance set up a means to share information on existing STCs or field approvals that others might find useful (anyone have a field approved Tost installation for an L-19? I'd be interested in that) or figure out how to get some engineering work done to support new applications, perhaps supported by a GoFundMe campaign or similar. I can think of many options. You know as well as the rest of us what form direct "help" from the FAA will take. best, Evan Ludeman / T8 |
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Letter to the FAA
Of the 5 pure sailplanes I've owned, all but one had a CG releases
*ONLY*. To my mind, that does not imply that a CG hook is only for ground launching because that would reduce the number of prospective purchasers by a bunch. As others have stated - please don't wake the sleeping giant (FAA). It is for those tow pilots who have concerns on the matter to decline to tow a CG release-equipped glider with a Schweizer-equipped tug. To put it into blunter terms, it is not for you or the FAA to tell me what I can or cannot fly based upon your concerns. More freedom, less regulation. Dan On 5/31/2017 2:36 PM, Walt Connelly wrote: Andreas Maurer;947904 Wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2017 14:24:11 +0100, Walt Connelly wrote: - and Germany had required special training for pilots flying CG hooks on aerotow. - .... which isn't required anymore. Regards from Germany Andreas Thank you Andreas, I do believe I used the past tense "had." That being said I understand from some highly reliable sources that the intended use of the CG hook was for ground launches. If you think of where a string is attached to a KITE, it is not attached to the nose, it is attached where it is attached for a reason. However it is not my intention to cause any problems for the CG hook glider pilots out there....rather to give a fighting chance to the tow pilot to release quickly and effectively when the need arises. I have heard from tow pilots who will not tow a CG hook glider with a Schweizer on the tow plane. I may be "Persona Non Grata" in the soaring world but I feel compelled to move forward in this endeavor. I have much work left to do. Walt -- Dan, 5J |
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