Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.

When I clicked the link and scrolled down it shows a box outlined in red that
says:

"I do/do not volunteer for overseas service."

Bush checked "Do not".

Walt


More spin. So why do you think that is important? Probably 75% of the guys in
the ten or so fighter squadrons I was in were non-volunteers.

Walt you are really grasping for straws, hanging on opinions from spinmakers,
and totally out of touch with what went on in the military during the Vietnam
era.

The records of Gore, Bush, Kerry, and the actions of Clinton all seem fishy to
me though I take far less umbrage to Bush's service than I do the otheres
because I know of others who followed the same path as he did conmpletely
within the "system". What matters is what has happened in the last decade. So
far as defense is concerned I see little in Kerry's record that would give me
much comfort in that regard.

When I clicked the link and scrolled down it shows a box outlined in red
that
says:

"I do/do not volunteer for overseas service."

Bush checked "Do not".

Walt


More spin.

It's not spin. I didn't keep track, but someone said that Bush volunteered for
overseas service. Maybe he did, but in February, 1968, he declined to do so.

I've seen no proof that he ever did.

Walt

"WalterM140" wrote in message
...

When I clicked the link and scrolled down it shows a box outlined in red
that
says:

"I do/do not volunteer for overseas service."

Bush checked "Do not".


Me too, but, of course, that does not indicate he did not volunteer for Viet
Nam.

(WalterM140) wrote in
:

[snip]

When I clicked the link and scrolled down it shows a box outlined in
red that says:

"I do/do not volunteer for overseas service."

Bush checked "Do not".

And later changed his mind.
Funny you don't mention that part.

IBM

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Ian MacLure wrote in message .. .
(WalterM140) wrote in
:

[snip]

When I clicked the link and scrolled down it shows a box outlined in
red that says:

"I do/do not volunteer for overseas service."

Bush checked "Do not".

And later changed his mind.
Funny you don't mention that part.

IBM


Can you show a source that Bush did volunteer for duty overseas?
Because in February, 1968, he declined to do so.

I am not denying that he did, but I've seen no proof. Further, I've
never even seen it suggested.

Walt

From: (WalterM140)
Date: 7/11/2004 6:39 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Mea culpa. Mea culpa. Now if Bush knew about those golf courses......

He tried to get into a program that could have landed hime near
one of them. He didn't have enough stick time it seems.


The only thing I've seen is that Bush declined to volunteer for Viet Nam.

A link:

http://awolbush.com/images/kerr_bush_nam.gif


Walt

Walt, you are repeating yourself, a typical neo-left action. I don't know if
the USMC had "dream sheets," but the Army and Air Force did. I filled out one
in the Army volunteering for Viet Nam, they sent me, I filled one out in the
USAF as "not an overseas volunteer" and stayed stateside for my first year. I
volunteered for West Germany and was there a few months later. I filled out a
dream sheet while I was there listing only northern SAC bases and wond up in
special ops in Florida for 14 years.

Now then, how many people in your OCS class put "not an overseas volunteer" on
their dream sheet? I won't bother asking if you did.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

(WalterM140) wrote in
:

The only thing I've seen is that Bush declined to volunteer for Viet
Nam.

Your point is? I don't think many of us actually did. Some did to
get out of
a tour in places like Korea.

Now I know Korea is a hardship posting but choosing Nam over Korea?
Isn't that somewhat extreme. And it just means some other poor *******
had to take your place

You obviously weren't stationed in Korea in the late 60s. Korat where I was
stationed in 72 -73 was a pretty plush place compared to Kunsan Korea. Sitting
a lot of nuke alert for weeks at a time wasn't an exactly exciting part of my
flying career unless one got launched and that never happende for me. .

Subject: Bush flew fighter jets, but never over VIETNAM.
From: Ian MacLure
Date: 7/11/2004 9:15 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

(ArtKramr) wrote in news:20040711151304.23951.00001710@mb-
m28.aol.com:

[snip]

What's a Linebacker?

Code name for a campaign of coordinated strikes
agaunst targets in North Vietnam. IIRC.

IBM


Thank you. I appreciate it.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

The point is that someone said that Bush volunteered for Viet Nam, but
there is a document extant that shows he -did-not- volunteer for
overseas assignment at one point.

Rather than claiming you have a list of those who didn't volunteer
for Vietnam,


I never claimed that. I asked for the person who said Bush volunteered for
Viet Nam to prove it.

Maybe he did, but no one has shown any reasonable proof of it.

Walt

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:19:17 +0000, WalterM140 wrote:

[snip]

Maybe he did, but no one has shown any reasonable proof of it.

Please to define "reasonable proof" in an unambigouous
way. It would help if the kind of proof you want was the
kind that ought ( in a standard procedural sense ) to exist.

IBM

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