Ventus 2 compared to Discus besides the obvious

At 03:19 03 April 2018, wrote:
I know the Ventus 2 is flapped and Discus is not. I am talking about
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of handling that the Discus is known for. Is the Ventus 2 with its wing
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sign change similar to the Discus or more like its predecessor to fly.
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Ventus A/B do not receive the greatest reviews for pleasure flying.
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do you who have flown them think. =20

Dino

The V2 is a fantastic handling glider which has none of the vices of it's
predecessors. The Discus remains a fantastic, easy to fly standard class
glider, but is significantly out performed by the V2. The Discus 2 is an
equally nice handling standard class glider, arguably best in class in the
right hands, but is more difficult to get the best out of.

For both, do your homework on different types. The V2 is really 2 very
different (but equally nice) gliders. The A and B are pure 15m gliders
with the A being lighter and having a much narrower fuse. The pure 'A' is
very light and exceptional in weak conditions. The AX (slightly later
model with some structural modifications) is slightly heavier but still
very competitive in class. The B has a wider fuse and again is heavier.
The V2C is actually a very different glider, with an 18m wing (and optional
15m tips) and again is out there in different variants. The original C has
a 525kg max weight, the CX takes this to 600kg with updated winglets. The
CXA has the CX wing, but a narrower fuselage.

The Discus 2 has similar A (pure 15m, narrow fuse), B (pure 15 wider fuse)
and C (15m/18m wider fuse) variants. The D2A is a no frills, narrow fuse,
standard class racing machine that although nice to fly, needs to be well
flown to make the most of. The D2C is a wide fuse, 18m variant, not really
competitive in class and more optimised for club/touring flying.

For a lower hours pilot, the only real difference is workload/pilot
capacity in the Ventus due to the flaps, particularly near the ground.

I currently fly a V2cxt, previously owned a V2cxa and D2a, have lots of
hours in club owned Discuses and a club owned D2ct and have flown pretty
much every variant of Ventus. The cxa was the nicest of all to fly.

I'm confused. Currently gliders under discussion are Discus, Discus 2, Ventus and Ventus 2 (all with various sub-models). Original poster first questioned differences between Discus (std. class ship made in 80's) and Ventus 2 (15m class from nineties. In next post he talks about Discus 2 (std. class ship made in 2000's). So exactly what two gliders are we comparing?