2 civilian airliners down south of Moscow

"B2431" wrote in message
...
|| They were going to overfly the WW2 Nazi nuclear test sites denyev has
been
| telling us about and might have seen the disc aircraft teuton was telling
us
| about. These sites have been classified by the United States for 75 years
and
| only those two have been brave enough to speak up about it. As a result of
this
| a mercury powered disc shapped missile was fired from the secret Nazi
| underground Antarctic base using tarver guidance (no pitot tubes) and
released
| two optical nukes in the .001 kt range to bring down the two airliners. In
a
| few days maron will tell us the USAF was involved in refueling the disc
missile
| in flight.
|
| I defy anyone to provide proof this didn't happen.
|
| Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired




Dan, you weren't there - you have no right to comment on it.





Cheers


Dave Kearton

(B2431) wrote in message ...
From: (running with scissors)
Date: 8/28/2004 5:43 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

(Krztalizer) wrote in message
...
Fearing it might be a
Russian 9/11 copy cat, they shotdown the firt Turpolev jetliner. Well,
somehow the Russian ATC radar showing the 'squack ident' from the
hijacked plane. Russian jetfighters shotdown the wrong plane. Then
they downed the hijacked plane.

The witnesses to the crash of one of the aircraft heard three booms, then a
falling airliner. Given the Russian government's penchant for avoiding the
truth in such events, I am surprised no one has yet suggested a US
submarine
caused the tragedy.


oh just wait, there's still the conspirowhacko's to come up with
something. were there any US warships on excerise in the area ?
denial will lead to cover up theories i am sure.

They were going to overfly the WW2 Nazi nuclear test sites denyev has been
telling us about and might have seen the disc aircraft teuton was telling us
about. These sites have been classified by the United States for 75 years and
only those two have been brave enough to speak up about it. As a result of this
a mercury powered disc shapped missile was fired from the secret Nazi
underground Antarctic base using tarver guidance (no pitot tubes) and released
two optical nukes in the .001 kt range to bring down the two airliners. In a
few days maron will tell us the USAF was involved in refueling the disc missile
in flight.

I defy anyone to provide proof this didn't happen.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

damn ! you know i think i read about that.. it had an 8-track
installed by tarver engineering of tehachapi, ca. and had a structure
using negative cabin pressure, also by tarver engineering. i cant
remember though if it used splaps amid its control surfaces though!

(B2431) wrote in message ...
From: (running with scissors)
Date: 8/28/2004 5:43 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

(Krztalizer) wrote in message
...
Fearing it might be a
Russian 9/11 copy cat, they shotdown the firt Turpolev jetliner. Well,
somehow the Russian ATC radar showing the 'squack ident' from the
hijacked plane. Russian jetfighters shotdown the wrong plane. Then
they downed the hijacked plane.

The witnesses to the crash of one of the aircraft heard three booms, then a
falling airliner. Given the Russian government's penchant for avoiding the
truth in such events, I am surprised no one has yet suggested a US
submarine
caused the tragedy.


oh just wait, there's still the conspirowhacko's to come up with
something. were there any US warships on excerise in the area ?
denial will lead to cover up theories i am sure.

They were going to overfly the WW2 Nazi nuclear test sites denyev has been
telling us about and might have seen the disc aircraft teuton was telling us
about. These sites have been classified by the United States for 75 years and
only those two have been brave enough to speak up about it. As a result of this
a mercury powered disc shapped missile was fired from the secret Nazi
underground Antarctic base using tarver guidance (no pitot tubes) and released
two optical nukes in the .001 kt range to bring down the two airliners. In a
few days maron will tell us the USAF was involved in refueling the disc missile
in flight.

I defy anyone to provide proof this didn't happen.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

damn ! you know i think i read about that.. it had an 8-track
installed by tarver engineering of tehachapi, ca. and had a structure
using negative cabin pressure, also by tarver engineering. i cant
remember though it it used splaps amid its control surfaces though!

From: "AbsolutelyCertain"
Date: 8/27/2004 1:15 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:


"Phil Miller" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:52:02 GMT, 4moreyears
wrote:

Two Russian jetliners crashed within close proximity 6 minutes apart?
There was reports one plane sent a signal being hijacked via
aircraft's transponder 'squack ident' whatever and witnesses saw the
planes exploded before it hit the ground.

My experience with airplanes I'm kind of speculate something Russian
authorities not telling. One plane reportedly intercepted by Russian
military fighters. What did the jet fighters do? Fearing it might be a
Russian 9/11 copy cat, they shotdown the firt Turpolev jetliner. Well,
somehow the Russian ATC radar showing the 'squack ident' from the
hijacked plane. Russian jetfighters shotdown the wrong plane. Then
they downed the hijacked plane.

That *looks* like English, but...

It might be Texan.

Moronics?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

That *looks* like English, but...

It might be Texan.

Hey hey hey now. It might be from the Crawford area, but the rest of the
Republic isn't known for such classic blunders, such as getting into a land war
in Asia.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.

In article ,
nt (Krztalizer) wrote:


That *looks* like English, but...

It might be Texan.

Hey hey hey now. It might be from the Crawford area, but the rest of the
Republic isn't known for such classic blunders, such as getting into a land
war in Asia.

Just getting deeper into an existing one? (Where, exactly, was LBJ from?)

In article ,
on 27 Aug 2004 07:23:04 GMT,
Krztalizer nt attempted to say .....


That *looks* like English, but...

It might be Texan.

Hey hey hey now. It might be from the Crawford area, but the rest of the
Republic isn't known for such classic blunders, such as getting into a land war
in Asia.

That's reserved for Presidents who hail from Massachusetts........


--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

Pete wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

Within 4 minutes of each other. Both took off from Domodedovo

Coincidence, or...?


Explosives Found in Both Crashed Russian Jets

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=6094456


Use of the Explosive Hexogen at a Glance

A Look at Cases Where the Powerful Explosive Hexogen Was Found


November 1999: In St. Petersburg, Russia, police arrest a man found
with four sections of a missile warhead carrying high explosives.
ITAR-Tass said the segments contained hexogen.

September 1999: In Moscow, apartment bombings killed some 300 people.
Authorities blame Chechen separatists for the explosions, which
involved hexogen.


http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040827_1071.html



Probe Into Russian Plane Crashes Centers on 2 Female Passengers

In particular, officials are seeking more information on two female
passengers with Chechen surnames. No relatives have come forward to
claim the women's remains, as happened with all the other victims.

http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?o...20Passen gers


Chechnya 'Black Widows' linked to sabotage of Russian jets

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html


'Black widows' link to air crashes

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/art...293205,00.html

....

What might the Russians do?

Two 100 MT solutions for Grozny a

1 Lo-tech -- drop a huge iron ball on the city that strikes it at 1
km/sec.


Distance from Impact: 0.00 km = 0.00 miles

Projectile Diameter: 585.00 m = 1918.80 ft = 0.36 miles
Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3

Impact Velocity: 1.00 km/s = 0.62 miles/s

Energy before atmospheric entry:
4.19 x 1017 Joules = 1.00 x 102 [megatons] TNT


http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/


2 Hi-tech -- resurrect two big things for a sub-orbital 100-MT
mission.

(Ground burst is chosen if winds take the fallout toward terrorist
refuges or toward "uncooperative" neighboring nations of Russia.)


"We can build the full-power version of THIS:"

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/vulkan.htm

http://k26.com/buran/Info/Hercules/vulkan.html

http://www.friends-partners.org/part...v/vulkanlv.gif


"to launch the full strength version of THIS!"

http://www.vniief.ru/museum/photo_08_e.html

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/Tsarbmb.jpg



Thermal radiation radius (3rd degree burns) 77.1 kilometres

Air blast radius (widespread destruction) 33.0 kilometres
Air blast radius (near-total fatalities) 12.5 kilometres

Ionizing radiation radius (500 rem) 7.5 kilometres


Fireball radius (minimum) 2.7 kilometres
Fireball radius (airburst) 3.3 kilometres
Fireball radius (ground-contact airburst) 4.4 kilometres

Fireball duration 35.7 seconds


http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html