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"Dan Luke" wrote: That's an interesting way of looking at it. I happen to believe we (American taxpayers) are getting value for our money because the cheap labor keeps prices down for food, construction, domestic maintenance, food service, hospitality, etc. unless, of course, you have a business that is competing with those that hire illegal workers. -- Bob Noel no one likes an educated mule |
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leslie wrote:
``...Rob Sanchez, who tracks non-immigrant visa issues and is the Webmaster for the invaluable www.zazona.com, says school districts fail to look at unemployed local professionals. Many laid off software engineers, for example, have gone back to school to get education degrees. "School districts all over the United States are actively recruiting foreign teachers for our schools. In this case, Filipino math and science teachers on H-1B visas have just arrived in Nevada. Yeah. The teachers' union here in Jersey got certain certification restrictions put in place to reduce competition from computer people. Basically, if you were a computer science major, you can't get a teaching certificate. Math and "hard" science majors get preferrential treatment (they're a bit scarce), but even an art major can get a certificate. CS majors don't qualify as "science" and don't have the credits in education or the arts to qualify. Foreigners with math degrees can walk right in, especially if they can also teach Spanish. The State mandated Spanish classes for all students a few years ago and is still a bit short of certified teachers. There are a few ways around it. A friend of mine is teaching in the prison system. It doesn't pay well, but she doesn't need the certificate she'd need to teach high school (and her students are nicer). I've known other people who worked as "substitute" teachers pretty much full time. Again, they're exempt from the most restrictive regs, and, again, it doesn't pay much. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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The ones that use real SS# also claim dependents of up to fourteen so
they get less deducted at each payday. After a year, they come back with different SS# and these slimey employers know this and don't care. Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone |
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The ones that use real SS# also claim dependents of up to fourteen so
they get less deducted at each payday. After a year, they come back with different SS# and these slimey employers know this and don't care. Why would they need to come back with a new SS #? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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They claim it(multiple dependents) on their W-4, but they don't file
tax return. Their weekly checks don't get taxed as much as if they claimed 0 dependent. By not using the same SS#, they actually disappear, (on paper). They come back as someone else or they piggy back on some innocent person's SS#. That person will have to pay up in the form of being evaluate as a person earning more than they really earned. Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone |
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Flyingmonk wrote:
They claim it(multiple dependents) on their W-4, but they don't file tax return. Their weekly checks don't get taxed as much as if they claimed 0 dependent. By not using the same SS#, they actually disappear, (on paper). They come back as someone else or they piggy back on some innocent person's SS#. That person will have to pay up in the form of being evaluate as a person earning more than they really earned. Don't the extra "earnings" flag the IRS as under reported income when the "owner" of the SSN files their 1040? |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Perhaps we should arm the copter with machine guns and fire back? No, that would be barbaric. However, I am continually amazed at the vociferous opposition to actually controlling our borders. For some reason the ACLU and a host of other do-gooder organizations find it anathema for America to actually restrict immigration to legal immigrants only -- a fact that baffles me. We are friends with a family from Columbia. They came to America the hard way -- legally -- and have struggled over the last decade with obtaining green cards for their family members, and with becoming American citizens. It has been a tough row to hoe, and they are rightfully proud of their efforts and status. They are also the most vocally anti-Mexican group of people I have EVER known. Their attitude toward illegal immigrants borders on Fascist -- they simply despise them for cheating and taking the easy way -- at what they see as their expense -- and I am sure they would advocate following this poster's (I hope) tongue-in-cheek suggestion to arm the border patrol helicopters with machine guns. But what is so wrong with stopping illegal immigration? Why is it okay to fly helicopters up and down the Rio Grande 24/7 -- at huge expense -- but building a fence is seen as some sort of "Berlin Wall"-type of deal? In the interst of balance... History being what it is, how can Americans justify keeping "illegals" out? Every single one of the old immigrants was treading on Indian toes, killing them, drugging them, using starvation and biological warfare against them to steal their land, only to turn around and claim squatter's rights? It's hypocrisy. All Americans are already illegals, or the children of illegals, or of those who have written laws to legalise their occupation of Indian lands themselves. If it wasn't so disgusting, it would be almost as funny as the guy who got a hard time entering at Australian customs when asked if he had a criminal record, when he replied "Is that still a requirement?" What's that on the statue of liberty? "Send me your poor, your downtrodden,..." Yes, them French got a funny sense of humour, all right. Some people got no sense at all. Of course, no one should expect anything better from those who sign international trade agreements and then ignore them, or who invade foreign countries on any manufactured excuse at all, as governmental policy dictated by commercial lobbies. I expect that right thinking Americans would protest this chicanery in their governmental affairs. Share the wealth or have it stolen. We are all in this together. Tolerating illegals, even employing them because it lowers the wage expectations of legal Mexican workers? Disgusting! The only option left to the oppressed is surrender, infiltration and sabotage. It's called homing chickens, or something, isn't it? What was he doing, flying so low and close to desperate, hostiles, economic refugees? Where the vigilantees so lazy they didn't want to run the extra few feet to beat up some wetbacks? Is he so totally unused to thinking that basic common sense is alien to him? A starving man has a right to steal food from the fat. If he has starving children, it becomes his duty, if there are no other options. How about you? Think much? Ever heard of the golden rule? Strange, how it all reminds me of a line from "The Worst of the Jefferson Airplane" : "Let's not register him." Must all Americans now wear numbers? JWB is hundreds of years behind the Scriptures, as are some others, it seems. What will it mean to you when your world is ending? It is not illegal to be poor. There is no need for a government to control every aspect of life. Excessive taxes are wasted on war chasing the wrong fuel? Why did the levee break? How many companies are now relieved of their lagoon contents? Who gained from this? Why are people in New Orleans not all driving hydrogen dirigibles fuelled with cheap solar cell derived hydrogen? Why do their concrete basements not float? Could it be lack of foresight? When will the next "hundred year storm" strike? Could a manufacturing industry based on petroleum make do with hydrogen from solar cell shingles in lieu of some feedstocks? Should plastic stuff be repairable? Are you aware it is possible to recycle sewage, electrolyzing the water to make hydrogen from sunshine, and that dry killed dung is good fertilizer, odourless, especially for animal feedstocks, ethelene corn, commonly called cow corn, is used to make another fuel, corn oil. Some areas of New Orleans should be cropland. It is sad, I know, and I am sorry to speak so soon, but plans must go forward. Some vehicles should be really fuel efficient, cheap, and not taxed like personal transport guzzler tanks. I personally would like a backwards tricycle "bike" with two lawn chairs, rain canvas, and a single rear mounted battery powered "Wheel motor / regenerative brake", like on the Eliica car. These motors are easy to make, efficient, and are made and used by the "End of the road" people, somewhere, from old brake disks and glued on magnets to make windmills. The automotive motor adapter, electronic controllers, are really simple, actually. Many "boomer" car stereos use more power transistors and magnets. What new industries? Terry K -SofDevCo- Communications is our most valuable resource. I am sorry to jump on this bandwagon so quick, but some things have got to be done soon, and plans must look forward. |
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Terry Spragg wrote:
In the interst of balance... History being what it is, how can Americans justify keeping "illegals" out? Every single one of the old immigrants was treading on Indian toes, killing them, drugging them, using starvation and biological warfare against them to steal their land, only to turn around and claim squatter's rights? Kennewick Man was here before them... http://www.friendsofpast.org |
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History being what it is, how can Americans justify keeping
"illegals" out? Every single one of the old immigrants was treading on Indian toes, killing them, drugging them, using starvation and biological warfare against them to steal their land, only to turn around and claim squatter's rights? I seriously doubt those who say this, really believe it. You're condeming Americans as bad people who have no right to a civilized society, while justifying anarchy. Your comparison disregards historical context and completely ignores America's (legal) immigrant past. Colonization and our westward expansion are history now, and since then we've established the most successful country in the world. If you really feel this way, human history must look pretty bleak to you - and it must very difficult to get up every morning. What's that on the statue of liberty? "Send me your poor, your downtrodden,..." Yes, them French got a funny sense of humour, all right. It's a monument to legal immigration - not chaos. The joke's on you. Frankie |
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In the interst of balance... History being what it is, how can Americans justify keeping "illegals" out? Every single one of the old immigrants was treading on Indian toes, killing them, drugging them, using starvation and biological warfare against them to steal their land, only to turn around and claim squatter's rights? It's hypocrisy. Psssst Terry....you need to study history a little better. There is strong evidence the Indians killed off earlier civilizations using the very techniques you mentioned. They also had no qualms about killing each other in what ever horrible method they could think up. |
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