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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On Jun 18, 3:32 pm, wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:13 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 14, 8:07 am, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 12, 8:24 am, wrote: On Jun 11, 5:01 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 11, 3:48 pm, wrote: On Jun 11, 4:44 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 11, 2:06 pm, wrote: On Jun 11, 7:23 am, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 10, 3:14 pm, wrote: On Jun 9, 11:30 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 9, 7:28 pm, wrote: incoherent babble snipped Wow, fruitcake and it isn't even Christmas yet! Was that one scripted within your DARPA Old Testament? What exactly have you constructively contributed to this or any other topic? BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth What is the topic? Bizarre discussions about imaginary balloons on Venus while tripping on acid? Your insurmountable nayism is noted, as are your ulterior motives of topic/author stalking on behalf of DARPA damage-control. We're going to put you in charge of FEMA. Since it's worth less than used toilet paper as is, what possible harm could you do? -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, I am working for DARPA? Hmmm, where is my paycheck. I'll have to give them a call! You really should do just that, because without your brown-nosed expertise they'd be seriously screwed. If DARPA didn't already have a "dean" minion, they'd sure as hell need to invent one. Of course, yourself and others of your kind find nothing the least be wrong or even skewed with any part of the ongoing administration, or with those of their insider war-for-profit partners in crimes against humanity, so what's the difference? I bet you wouldn't even care if motor fuel went for $10/gallon. (it's already more than half that much if you need to burn diesel) -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, I do care that it is that high. I am making a killing selling oil from the well I drilled in my back yard... Very good, as then you'll not mind WWIII. In fact, if you play your crude oil cards just right, WWIII will only make you a whole lot richer and otherwise Zionist faith-based powerful. At the same time you'd also be putting a big-ass smile on Hitlers face (neat trick considering he's dead). BTW, not that you'd care, but did you hear that most recent NPR report of the forthcoming "severe inflation"? -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A personal oil well is the world's best hedge against inflation... Why not simply call yourself ENRON, or ExxonMobil ?? BTW, why is DARPA and their army of brown-nosed minions so upset about this topic? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What makes you think that DARPA gives a crap about this topic? I doubt that they care... sounds like delusions of grandeur on your part. Then prove otherwise by simply turning on those "gold stars". - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On Jun 14, 8:05*am, BradGuth wrote:
Do you have anything the least be topic constructive, such as pertaining to the R&D of rigid composite airships? Do you? See, here's the thing that bugs me. This thread didn't start out bad. You have actual numbers (though I have no idea how accurate they are); you mention the Landis aerostat concept. But then Liberator and Hagar jump on the topic immediately, hold out the bait...and you go straight for it, turning what could have been an actual engineering discussion into a rant about "Zionist NAZI wizards". To your credit, you have occassionally tried to steer the thread back into relevant areas, but then you turn right around and push your DARPA conspiracy theory again. The title of this thread is "Venus Airships", right? Then talk about Venus airships! Leave your ideas about government persecution to another thread. (Preferably in another newsgroup.) |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On Jun 19, 6:39 am, Damien Valentine wrote:
On Jun 14, 8:05 am, BradGuth wrote: Do you have anything the least be topic constructive, such as pertaining to the R&D of rigid composite airships? Do you? Yes I have lots to offers, but unlike your all-knowing self, I do not have 100% of all the exact right answers. See, here's the thing that bugs me. This thread didn't start out bad. You have actual numbers (though I have no idea how accurate they are); you mention the Landis aerostat concept. But then Liberator and Hagar jump on the topic immediately, hold out the bait...and you go straight for it, turning what could have been an actual engineering discussion into a rant about "Zionist NAZI wizards". You already know that I'm only returning the favor, with all the love and affection that I can muster. So, what's your point? To your credit, you have occassionally tried to steer the thread back into relevant areas, but then you turn right around and push your DARPA conspiracy theory again. The title of this thread is "Venus Airships", right? Then talk about Venus airships! Leave your ideas about government persecution to another thread. (Preferably in another newsgroup.) Where are your supposed good numbers, ideas, R&D or of whatever's DARPA need-to-know about the complex applications of a composite rigid airship as intended for accomplishing Venus? Or would your rather pretend the past of dastardly deeds never happened? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
Notice how our Zionist/Nazi DARPA and of their army of brown-nosed
clowns just loves to play games, though mostly at the collateral damage and demise of others. Notice how the past or recent energy inflation doesn't bother these DARPA clowns in the least bit. Notice how perpetrated war(s) (including WWIII) doesn't seem to bother any of these DARPA clowns. Notice how every effort is made to topic/author stalk, bash, banish, divert and/or pollute our public Usenet/newsgroups, by way of those in charge of our private parts and most of our hard earned loot. Notice how they've turned off those Google/NOVA newsgroup "gold stars". Notice how they've posted their smut and porn topics with key search words. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth On Jun 12, 5:19 am, BradGuth wrote: If robotics simply isn’t offering sufficient exploration risk or otherwise DARPA/NASA spendy enough, there’s always a fully manned mission of the very least 100 fold more spendy, plus their having to navigate well above the hot geothermal surface ofVenusfor roughly 18 months before eventually upward exiting and returning to Earth. The AI/robotic consideration would not only cost at least 100 fold less than any manned mission, but it also doesn’t have to ever return to Earth, and thereby could stay on its mission throughout several 19 month cycles, as well as multiple surface landings becomes technically doable without risk of harming a single strand of human DNA. So therefore, a robotic rigid-airship is actually a good thousand fold cheaper than any kind of manned mission (perhaps even if POOF City were set up atVenusL2 would likely still be 100 fold less spendy). TheVenusenvironment at one of the likely rigid-airship cruising altitudes of 25 km is only a bit 500K (440F) toasty warm by season of day, and otherwise somewhat considerably cooler by season of night, perhaps drawn down to as low as 400K (260F). The closer you get to that geothermally hot surface the less day/night thermal differential you’ve got to work with. Increasing the operational altitude to 35 km by season of nighttime is almost humanly tolerable, although you’re also getting into that lower acidic cloud haze. Much above 35 km by season of nighttime you may need to consider navigating by radar, as well as remain submarine like fully enclosed within the rigid composite airship. By season of day should allow cruising as high as 45 km, although there too is that pesky acidic cloud haze to deal with. - BradGuthBrad_Guth Brad.GuthBradGuth On May 4, 1:31 pm, BradGuth wrote: Being a little hot, buoyant and having 10% less gravity is actually a darn good thing if you were a Venusian airship, even if limited as to an oven-wrap or KetaSpire PEEK polyetheretherketone and fiber reinforced balloon. Such fiber reinforced composites do exist, although an outer skin of something in basic titanium shouldn’t be excluded for this rigid airship configuration. For this topic I have this unusual airship to R&D, as intended for a rather toasty dry and calm environment. Think of this application as a floating city if you like, or consider this one as merely a small or as large as need be robotic probe that can remain efficiently aloft for nearly unlimited time without much energy demand while drifting or even when cruising along at perhaps an average air-speed of less than 10 m/s, as such wouldn’t demand but a few kw for managing a good sized airship. Taking into account the 1.75 kg/m3 by day and perhaps 2.5 kg/m3 of nighttime buoyancy at 50 km is roughly worth twice that of any terrestrial airship application, and for the most part it’s actually fairly calm, kind of inert nice enough and even relatively cool because it’s at such a good deal of altitude away from that geothermal radiating planet, and otherwise operating within the nighttime season, and still situated well enough below the bulk of those otherwise thick and nasty acidic clouds. Because the inert infrastructure of this rigid airship doesn’t change per given altitude means that its hauling capacity or payload is capable of becoming downright impressive, getting much better as one operates at lower altitudes, such as below 35 km by season of day and below 25 km by season of nighttime is where that robust S8/CO2 atmosphere is nearly crystal dry and otherwise clear for as far as you can see (depending on terrain, roughly 500 km in all directions). Initially, this is a very rigid composite and robust kind of mostly robotic airship, intended as an extended expedition probe. It’s somewhat of a conventional blimp like craft, except using a rigid composite hull with a 6:1 L/W ratio instead of the more common terrestrial 5:1. In my way of thinking, it has a rather thick outer composite hull that’s nicely insulative (critical science instrument/components area being insulated by R-100 or better) as obviously acidic proof, not to mention melt proof, not that its failsafe hydrogen gas displacement or that of its vacuum worth of artificial buoyancy need be all that acid proof or even having to be excessively cooled, because the bulk of this airship can be rated for 811 K (1000°F). There are four rather over-sized longitudinal stabilizer fins, used for obvious flight stability, but also utilized for their heat- exchanging functions, and otherwise a pair of midship underbelly landing skids (just in case). Its configuration might incorporate one fully ducted set of large diameter counter-rotating pusher fans, plus four other fully rotatable thrusters (two on either forward/aft side for a total boost of 10% main engine thrust), that collectively can also be utilized as forward/ reverse motion thrusters. The maximum velocity potential of 100 m/s need not be necessary, and certainly not one of those all or nothing considerations, because 10 m/s is more than good enough unless striving to migrate though those acidic clouds in order to cruise essentially above the 75 km nighttime worth of those fast moving clouds (80~85 km by day) . This craft is not going to be your average Hindenburg, much less flammable or otherwise combustible, although intended for efficiently cruising aboutVenuswhere size and mass are of little concern when having 64+ kg/m3 worth of buoyancy, and only 90.5% gravity to work with is certainly going to avoid all sorts of inert mass considerations that would have more than grounded the Hindenburg. In addition to certain liquid fuels that can be safely incorporated, there will be a pair of custom RTGs running at more than hot enough to melt aluminum, and a likely Stirling thermal dynamic process of utilizing that heat at roughly 25+% efficiency for all of the onboard systems and main propulsion. Getting rid of 75% worth of RTG heat shouldn’t be all that insurmountable, especially with such a thermally conductive flow of that toasty Venusian atmosphere flowing past, as worthy of roughly 10% the density of water, in that the closer we cruise to the geothermally active surface the more dense and thermally conductive becomes the surrounding S8 and CO2 atmosphere. Once again, on behalf of Usenet/Group diehard naysayers, this topic is not about our having to terraformVenus, or that of our having to prance ourselves about in the buff, at least not without our trusty OveGlove jumpsuit and portable CO2--co/o2 plus heat-exchanging unit. Instead, we’re talking mostly about a fully robotic craft that really doesn’t care how hot and nasty it is outside, and may never have to land for the next hundred years, with a future human flight configured version that’s clearly scaled in sufficient volume in order to suit the applications of sustaining human our frail life for extended periods of time while cruising extensively at or below 25 km. Even though Geoffrey Landis wisely publishes most everything of his expertise as science fiction, it’s based entirely upon the regular laws of physics, and for the most part using the best available science. This doesn’t mean that I’d worship each and every published word of Landis or from others of his kind, although it does fully demonstrate that I’m not the one and only wise enough individual that’s deductively thinking constructively and thus positively about accomplishing thoseVenusexpeditions. Venusexploration papers / Geoffrey A. Landis http://www.sff.net/people/geoffrey.landis/papers.html Evaluation of Long Duration Flight onVenus/ by Anthony J. Colozza and Geoffrey A. Landis http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/20...006-214452.pdf This paper was for the most part generated long after my having insisted that such a mission via aircraft/airship was technically doable, although this Geoffrey and Anthony version focused mostly on behalf of solar powered and RTG as necessary, whereas such there’s nothing much innovative or all that ground breaking to report, especially since much of their airship application is operated within a terrestrial like environment by way of keeping good altitude. This is not saying that my ideas are of the one and only do-or-die alternatives, as I’m not the least bit opposed to incorporating viable alternatives, or having to share most of the credits with those having contributed their honest expertise. In other words, I’m not the bad guy here, nor am I interested in hearing from those having ulterior motives or counter intentions of merely topic/author stalking and bashing for all the grief they can muster. . – BradGuth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On Jun 18, 3:32 pm, wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:13 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 14, 8:07 am, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 12, 8:24 am, wrote: On Jun 11, 5:01 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 11, 3:48 pm, wrote: On Jun 11, 4:44 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 11, 2:06 pm, wrote: On Jun 11, 7:23 am, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 10, 3:14 pm, wrote: On Jun 9, 11:30 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 9, 7:28 pm, wrote: incoherent babble snipped Wow, fruitcake and it isn't even Christmas yet! Was that one scripted within your DARPA Old Testament? What exactly have you constructively contributed to this or any other topic? BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth What is the topic? Bizarre discussions about imaginary balloons on Venus while tripping on acid? Your insurmountable nayism is noted, as are your ulterior motives of topic/author stalking on behalf of DARPA damage-control. We're going to put you in charge of FEMA. Since it's worth less than used toilet paper as is, what possible harm could you do? -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, I am working for DARPA? Hmmm, where is my paycheck. I'll have to give them a call! You really should do just that, because without your brown-nosed expertise they'd be seriously screwed. If DARPA didn't already have a "dean" minion, they'd sure as hell need to invent one. Of course, yourself and others of your kind find nothing the least be wrong or even skewed with any part of the ongoing administration, or with those of their insider war-for-profit partners in crimes against humanity, so what's the difference? I bet you wouldn't even care if motor fuel went for $10/gallon. (it's already more than half that much if you need to burn diesel) -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, I do care that it is that high. I am making a killing selling oil from the well I drilled in my back yard... Very good, as then you'll not mind WWIII. In fact, if you play your crude oil cards just right, WWIII will only make you a whole lot richer and otherwise Zionist faith-based powerful. At the same time you'd also be putting a big-ass smile on Hitlers face (neat trick considering he's dead). BTW, not that you'd care, but did you hear that most recent NPR report of the forthcoming "severe inflation"? -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A personal oil well is the world's best hedge against inflation... Why not simply call yourself ENRON, or ExxonMobil ?? BTW, why is DARPA and their army of brown-nosed minions so upset about this topic? -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What makes you think that DARPA gives a crap about this topic? I doubt that they care... sounds like delusions of grandeur on your part. It's their internet/usenet that became our public newsgroups, as hosted by Google/NOVA and a few other servers. If I were in charge of our DARPA (aka CIA/MI5/NSA/FBI plus a good dozen other spook and mole capable agencies along with their faith- based puppeteers), I too would be doing serious damage-control right about now. Why are the newsgroup "gold stars" terminated? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On Jun 18, 3:32 pm, wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:13 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 14, 8:07 am, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 12, 8:24 am, wrote: On Jun 11, 5:01 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 11, 3:48 pm, wrote: On Jun 11, 4:44 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 11, 2:06 pm, wrote: On Jun 11, 7:23 am, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 10, 3:14 pm, wrote: On Jun 9, 11:30 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 9, 7:28 pm, wrote: incoherent babble snipped Wow, fruitcake and it isn't even Christmas yet! Was that one scripted within your DARPA Old Testament? What exactly have you constructively contributed to this or any other topic? BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth What is the topic? Bizarre discussions about imaginary balloons on Venus while tripping on acid? Your insurmountable nayism is noted, as are your ulterior motives of topic/author stalking on behalf of DARPA damage-control. We're going to put you in charge of FEMA. Since it's worth less than used toilet paper as is, what possible harm could you do? -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, I am working for DARPA? Hmmm, where is my paycheck. I'll have to give them a call! You really should do just that, because without your brown-nosed expertise they'd be seriously screwed. If DARPA didn't already have a "dean" minion, they'd sure as hell need to invent one. Of course, yourself and others of your kind find nothing the least be wrong or even skewed with any part of the ongoing administration, or with those of their insider war-for-profit partners in crimes against humanity, so what's the difference? I bet you wouldn't even care if motor fuel went for $10/gallon. (it's already more than half that much if you need to burn diesel) -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, I do care that it is that high. I am making a killing selling oil from the well I drilled in my back yard... Very good, as then you'll not mind WWIII. In fact, if you play your crude oil cards just right, WWIII will only make you a whole lot richer and otherwise Zionist faith-based powerful. At the same time you'd also be putting a big-ass smile on Hitlers face (neat trick considering he's dead). BTW, not that you'd care, but did you hear that most recent NPR report of the forthcoming "severe inflation"? -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A personal oil well is the world's best hedge against inflation... Why not simply call yourself ENRON, or ExxonMobil ?? BTW, why is DARPA and their army of brown-nosed minions so upset about this topic? -BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What makes you think that DARPA gives a crap about this topic? I doubt that they care... sounds like delusions of grandeur on your part. Sorry I'd missed this reply of yours. All that I'm saying is that a sufficient composite rigid airship can be created for at least robotics to stay aloft for months and even years while cruising efficiently below them acidic clouds of Venus. Our DARPA has had the necessary supercomputers and software for accommodating all of the R&D as well as virtual simulations down to every conceivable detail. If our DARPA wasn't what I perceive them to be, this would be such a problem to resolve in grand 3D animated eye-candy style. - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Jun 18, 3:32 pm, wrote: On Jun 17, 10:13 pm, BradGuth wrote: snip drivel Sorry I'd missed this reply of yours. All that I'm saying is that a sufficient composite rigid airship can be created for at least robotics to stay aloft for months and even years while cruising efficiently below them acidic clouds of Venus. Yearning for those good old Horse and Buggy days, Bradwurst ?? |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
Hagar wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Jun 18, 3:32 pm, wrote: On Jun 17, 10:13 pm, BradGuth wrote: snip drivel Sorry I'd missed this reply of yours. All that I'm saying is that a sufficient composite rigid airship can be created for at least robotics to stay aloft for months and even years while cruising efficiently below them acidic clouds of Venus. Yearning for those good old Horse and Buggy days, Bradwurst ?? Will you stop insulting bradwursts!!!!! They are not on the same level as BRATHGUST.(no smiley) |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On Jun 30, 6:58 am, "Hagar" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Jun 18, 3:32 pm, wrote: On Jun 17, 10:13 pm, BradGuth wrote: snip drivel Sorry I'd missed this reply of yours. All that I'm saying is that a sufficient composite rigid airship can be created for at least robotics to stay aloft for months and even years while cruising efficiently below them acidic clouds of Venus. Yearning for those good old Horse and Buggy days, Bradwurst ?? As long as those are not Zionist/Nazi horse and buggy days, why the hell not. Just wondering, what's horse and buggy about a composite rigid airship as intended for the planet Venus? Isn't this just another topic diversion tactic of yours? But then, isn't this exactly what being a brown-nosed minion/clown for the Zionist Third Reich is all about? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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Venus Airships / by Brad Guth
On Jun 30, 7:19 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Jun 30, 6:58 am, "Hagar" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Jun 18, 3:32 pm, wrote: On Jun 17, 10:13 pm, BradGuth wrote: snip drivel Sorry I'd missed this reply of yours. All that I'm saying is that a sufficient composite rigid airship can be created for at least robotics to stay aloft for months and even years while cruising efficiently below them acidic clouds of Venus. Yearning for those good old Horse and Buggy days, Bradwurst ?? As long as those are not Zionist/Nazi horse and buggy days, why the hell not. Just wondering, what's horse and buggy about a composite rigid airship as intended for the planet Venus? Isn't this just another topic diversion tactic of yours? But then, isn't this exactly what being a brown-nosed minion/clown for the Zionist Third Reich is all about? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth For such a downright nifty R&D topic, seems a touch odd that our all- knowing public servants of DARPA haven't been into helping out. What the hell is it about Venus that's so unusually dark and scary? - Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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