Presidential TFR @ Kill Devil Hills

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"R. Hubbell" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:05:39 GMT Dave S
wrote:

Ok.. at the risk of interrupting the partisanship here...

What makes you think that if the next prez is a Democrat that the SS..
er Secret Service will not still insist on a 60 mile diameter bubble?


You're really trying to spoil all the fun! We can only hope that the
next president will be more enlightened.

Not unless we gat an alien being from another planet in the race.

Not allowed of course because you need to have been born in the USA. I knew
the system was flawed somehow.

"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
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in article , Big John at
wrote on 12/16/03 12:32 AM:

What would happen if 500 GA birds showed up towing banners saying "Go
home Mr presiden, we want to fly"?

Do you think they have enough F-16's and weapons to shoot down them
all and if that happened what would those idiots (spelled Liberals) do
to him? He would be smoke politically after they got through in the
liberal press.

John, if the U.S. military shot down 500 GA planes for doing nothing more
than towing banners, and Liberals chose to criticize it, I wouldn't call
them idiots, I'd call them decent and sensible human beings.

Does the constitutional right to bear arms extend to fitting up your Warrior
or other suitable flying platform with heat seeking missiles cannon etc so
that you can defend yourself from aggressors? and does your right to protect
yourself override the FARs in that you can modify your plane accordingly.

"Montblack" wrote in message
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| ("MikeM" wrote)
| Bush is an IDIOT!
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|
| Bush has the great (double) misfortune of being:
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| 1. One of our least intelligent Presidents.

Still smarter than you.

| 2. Following one of the most intelligent Presidents this country has ever
| had.
|

Not saying much. The guy allowed himself to be blackmailed by an intern, for
crying out loud.

If intelligence had anything to do with it, they would make ME president!


--
Christopher J. Campbell
World Famous Flight Instructor
Port Orchard, WA


If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals.

Does the constitutional right to bear arms extend to fitting up your Warrior
or other suitable flying platform with heat seeking missiles cannon etc so
that you can defend yourself from aggressors?

Yes. What part of "Shall not be infringed." do you not understand?

and does your right to protect
yourself override the FARs in that you can modify your plane accordingly.


Let's see, does a regulatory agency override the Constitution?

They may be able to require that the modifications are performed to certain
standards if you wish to overfly populated areas, but the second amendment is
pretty clear.

Don

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG

Does anyone else find it ironic that the President's very presence at
the celebration of 100 years of powered flight has shut down almost
2,000 square miles of airspace? Couldn't he have phoned it in?


Sadly, my letter to CNN pointing this out had no effect. Damn right wing
media continues to kiss Bush's ass.

"Montblack" wrote in message
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Steven - just jumping in on your post because I deleted the other replies
already.

1. I don't think GW is dumb, stupid or inept.
2. I *do* think raw intellect is something you can get a sense of - much
like charisma, warmth and sincerely.

3. Intellect is not the end all in setting up a successful
administration.

4. For example: GW doesn't answer questions with a strong command of the
situation (news conferences/interviews/etc). Clinton owned those
situations
for the better part of 8 years. This is where 75% of my "Presidential
Intellect" observations come from.

If there are maybe 10 criteria that Bush, and all former Presidents are
scored on - and intellect is one of them, then I sincerely believe Bush
would rank near the bottom (compared to past Presidents) in that one
category - raw intelligence.

Now it comes down to definitions of intellect.


What did Bush do to cause you to conclude he is one of our least intelligent
Presidents? What did Clinton do to cause you to conclude he is one of our
most intelligent Presidents?

"John Harlow" wrote in message
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Sadly, my letter to CNN pointing this out had no effect. Damn right wing
media continues to kiss Bush's ass.


You think CNN is right wing?

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Montblack" wrote in
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Bush has the great (double) misfortune of being:

1. One of our least intelligent Presidents.
2. Following one of the most intelligent Presidents this country has
ever
had.


Bush is clearly more intelligent than Clinton. Now, you'll of course
disagree with that, but if you examine their administrations you find
that
Bush has accomplished more in three years than Clinton did in eight.

At least he didn't screw up as much stuff as Clinton did (and yes, he did
lay the ground work for running the 90's boom into the ditch).

I shudder to think what would have happened, post 9/11, if Gore had been
in
office.

That said, I'll not vote to re-elect Bush, but I also shudder to think
where
we'll end up with Dean, or worse yet, Hillary in office.

So if Dean or Hillary scare you so much, vote for Bush.

What did Bush do to cause you to conclude he is one of our least intelligent
Presidents? What did Clinton do to cause you to conclude he is one of our
most intelligent Presidents?


Bush's trail is littered with the political corpses of opponents who were sure
they were smarter than him.

Don

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:09:32 GMT Bob Noel wrote:

In article yyRDb.23619$pY.15803@fed1read04, "R. Hubbell"
wrote:

How many hours did he log as PIC? Most pilots brag about that, in
fact
most
consider that to be the defining metric.

what military pilots do you hang around with? I've never
met a military pilot that brags about hours.

Brag is probably the wrong word but number of hours is a metric that gets
tossed around a bit. But never heard any mention of Dubya's hours as
PIC.

Well, in my limited experience (I'm not former military, and
I only worked with USAF folks, including numerous current and former
USAF pilots), I've never ever heard one discuss their hours.
I've heard about guys talk about birdstrikes, missions (peacetime
and war), aircraft characteristics, but not the number of hours.

Come to think of it, the only pilots I know of that talk about
hours like they mean anything are student pilots and recently
minted private pilots. Of course, everyone talks about the
crusty old 20,000+ pilots.


So how many hours does Dubya have as PIC?
That's what we're talking about.

R. Hubbell


--
Bob Noel