What having a sky marshal really means

"Jack Davis" wrote in message
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Not quite. Here's a hint for you: When a Captain decides to evacuate
the jet the crew completes the Evacuation check list. At the
completion of that check list the engines and APU are shut down.

Got it figured out yet?


I've got you figured out.

"Jack Davis" wrote in message
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You.


I'll try to use smaller words.

"Nomen Nescio" ] wrote in message
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To me, it seems quite reasonable to have the flight crew aware of the
presence of a
FAM.

A couple of points:

Point 1) If the pilot hears some shooting in the back, it would be a damn
good idea for him
to know if someone back there was authorized to carry a gun. It just might
be somewhat
relevent to the way the situation is handled from the cockpit.


How so? Whether or not he knows if anyone in the back was authorized to
carry a gun, he knows shots have been fired. How would who fired the shots
alter his course of action from that point?



Point 2) Any civillian who is licensed for concealed carry (and there are
a lot) has probably
spent some time looking in a mirror to see how obvious the "printing" of
their weapon is. I
can usually pick out a concealed weapon where most people won't simple
because I
know what the signs are. So let's say I notice that a passenger is
carrying. Do I quietly
inform a FA? Most likely, yes.


Why?



How would a FA handle that if they could not verify that
the individual was a LEO? I wouldn't consider "Uh, I dunno." a sufficient
answer whereas
a quiet "Don't worry about it" would be my cue to sit down and shut up.


Do sky marshals not carry any form of positive identification? What would
you expect a FA to do with that information?



Point 3) As PIC, I would be really ****ed off if the Feds said I had no
right to know if
someone is armed on MY plane.


Why?

Our intel guys have concluded - after sifting through a
lot of specific information, including the results of interrogation of
detainees
at Guantánamo Bay - that terrorists remain convinced that airliners are
still
the most powerful weapon readily available to them.

The prisoners at Guantanamo Bay have been their 2 years. Crashing planes was
what was one the agenda then. Unless the guys in orange jumpsuits have been
home in the meantime for them its still 2001. Good intel there, only two
years old.

We can all sleep in peace knowing that the US intelligence services are on
top of the job.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 00:53:04 -0000, "Dave"
wrote:

The prisoners at Guantanamo Bay have been their 2 years. Crashing planes was
what was one the agenda then. Unless the guys in orange jumpsuits have been
home in the meantime for them its still 2001. Good intel there, only two
years old.

Actually I seem to recall reading (TIME magazine, I think) that
prisoners have been released and other have been detained and
transported to Gitmo. Not a revolving door, but there has been some
turnover there.

Rob

Robert Moore wrote in message .6...
Just before takeoff, the
switch is placed in the "takeoff" position and the automatic features of
the controller closes the valves somewhat to cause no more than a .125 psi
differential. This pressure limit is an FAA aircraft certification limit
and is sometimes stated as "no more than 250 ft below field elevation". The

Thanks for the excellent explanation, Bob. Back when I had the
misfortune of having to fly commercially, I used to notice that my
altimeter watch would drop about 200 ft. as we taxied away from the
gate. I always wondered how that would impact getting the door open
in case of emergency.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)