Aeronautical Engineer says Official 9/11 Story Not Possible

Matt,

A psychotic goof ball posts drivel and fifty people give him what he wants!


You know, you have a point there. OTOH, it's just so much fun jerking the
chain...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Truth,

I will admit that I'm much more familiar with the WTC attacks than the
Pentagon.


You'll admit that? How gracious!

You're beyond help...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote in
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Truth,

I will admit that I'm much more familiar with the WTC attacks than the
Pentagon.


You'll admit that? How gracious!

You're beyond help...




And you're a CNN/FOX corporate news brainwashed ignoramous

"TRUTH" wrote

Certainly I will answer it. 9/11 was such a terrible event, that thinking
our government was involved is very difficult.

It isn't difficult, it is illogical.

government's side, even without evidence. They will even think that
evidence exists when it does not.

Your "evidence" amounts to nothing more than some opinions from questionable
sources.

Face it. 9/11 was an inside job.

Nothing you have said here proves that. Come back with some real proof and
you may succeed in changing what people think. Opinions are still opinions,
regardless of how many times they are repeated.

Is what you claim possible? - maybe. Is it probable or logical? - no.

"Johnny Bravo" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:28:07 GMT, TRUTH wrote:

The government's version is a conspiracy theory, since there's no
evidence to back it up. Therefore anyone believing the government's
version is a conspiracy theorist. You think there's evidence? Prove it

We all think your tinfoil hat is on too tight and has cut off
circulation to
your brain. We don't really care if you ever accept reality. You're here
to
convince us, not the other way around.

Now, now, you've insulted him and now he's going to say bad things to you.

Paul Nixon

"TRUTH" wrote in message
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Pooh Bear wrote in
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TRUTH wrote:

Pooh Bear wrote in
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TRUTH wrote:

Note: basic scientific laws CANNOT be changed

And you just admiited you don't understand science. You simply
don't have the first clue about real scientific analysis. You seem
to prefer wildly inaccurate 'folk lore' ideas.

Graham

Liar. I never said I don't understand science.,

Your skimpy 'folksy' concept of science is a classic case of a little
knowledge being the proverbial dangerous thing.

Graham





Either you're going to wake up and face reality, or you're not. It's your
choice

I've said it before and I'm saying it again. You really should actually read
what the sites you link to say. From YOUR cite
http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html "
The Pentagon attack:
the "no plane" theories discredit 9/11 skepticism and distract from proven
evidence of complicity

a.. there is zero evidence for any of the "no plane" claims - hundreds of
people saw the plane, none saw a cruise missile, Global Hawk robot plane,
smaller plane or flying saucer piloted by giant lizards
b.. the physical evidence shows that a large twin engine jet hit the
nearly empty part of the Pentagon, the "Black Boxes" were found, cleanup
crews found remains of the passengers, the "hole was too small" claim was a
hoax.
Stunning, absolutely stunning.

Paul Nixon

In article ,
TRUTH bloviated:



Certainly I will answer it. 9/11 was such a terrible event, that thinking
our government was involved is very difficult. Most people therefore will
not think rationally when it comes to evidence. Most people will take the
government's side, even without evidence. They will even think that
evidence exists when it does not. They will do anything and everything in
their power to deny what happened.

"TRUTH" does not think -- rationally or otherwise.


I will admit that I'm much more familiar with the WTC attacks than the
Pentagon. And I am no pilot. But I am a clear thinker, which obviously
you are not.

He is a "clear thinker" (in his own mind).

Perhaps he is misspelling "thinker"?


Face it. 9/11 was an inside job. More and more money has been pouring
into the cause. More and more radio spots, more TV ads, more newspaper
coverage. Sooner or later, major newspapers will report it. The Movement
is expanding rapidly. Continued denial is not going to help

Remember, "TRUTH": Continued denial is not going to help.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:32:50 GMT, mrtravel wrote:

Johnny Bravo wrote:

As for a precision maneuver, how about Ernst Udet about picking up a hankerchief
sitting on a runway, using a wingtip, to win a bet with Hollywood starlet Mary
Pickford.

Compared to that a 360 degree dive is a piece of cake.

I would bet that he was a better pilot than Snoopy's nemisis, even
though Manfred was credited with more kills.

Udet's story is a pretty facinating read, that guy had the devil's own luck
during WWI. He started out as a pilot for an artillery observer. He went above
and beyond the call of duty to save a defective plane (at one point the observer
was out on the wing to counterbalance the spin the plane was undergoing),
winning him the Iron Cross.

On a later bombing mission he crashed just after takeoff after banking left,
earning him 7 days in the brig for careless maneuvering. On his next mission
that same careless maneuvering saved his plane when a live bomb got hung up
underneath him and he shook it free. When he got back he was transferred to a
fighter squadron and given a brand new Fokker which crashed on takeoff due to a
mechanical defect.

In his first encounter with the enemy, he froze and couldn't fire. Return
fire from his intended target actually shot his goggles off, cutting his face
with glass splinters. Determined to make up for his private failure he ended up
going solo against 20 French bombers. He nailed one on his first pass and dove
down as others chased him. Shortly afterwards several more German planes
arrived and attacked. Udet went after a damaged bomber that had been seperated
from the formation and damaged it further, but couldn't shoot it down because
his guns jammed.

On May 25th Udet ran into Georges Guynemer (who died in Sep 1917 with 53 kills
and had 45 at the time of this encounter), they sparred for a while but neither
one could press home a decisive advantage. Udet's guns jammed and in a rare
moment of chivalry (rare for that late in the war), Guynemer waved to Udet and
flew off.

Richthofen invited Udet to join Jagdgeschwader 1 less than a month before
Richthofen was killed. Udet arrived at 10am and flew his first mission with
Richthofen at noon, shooting down an observation plane during a head on pass.
After a fight with a few Sopwith Camels, Richthofen got one, and a few strafing
runs on the trenches they returned to the field where Udet was immediately given
command of Jasta 11, one quarter of Richthofen's group.

In May 1918 he got a little careless and got shot down by the gunner of an
observation plane. When he bailed out, his chute got tangled in the tail of his
plane, but he got it free and landed without injury in no-man's land. By
nightfall he was safely behind his own lines.

In a later fight with a couple of Sopwith Camels he actually hit one of them
with his own plane. Udet was unscathed, his opponent suffered enough damage to
his upper wing to bring down the plane. Udet later visited the pilot in the
hospital.

When the war ended, fighter pilots weren't exactly in high demand. He
traveled to North and South America where he participated in air shows, and flew
camera planes for some of the more exotic Hollywood pictures shot in Africa.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:03:49 GMT, TRUTH wrote:

Face it. 9/11 was an inside job. More and more money has been pouring
into the cause. More and more radio spots, more TV ads, more newspaper
coverage. Sooner or later, major newspapers will report it. The Movement
is expanding rapidly. Continued denial is not going to help

Expanding so rapidly that there are literaly *dozens* of supporters all over
the world.

There were more people on the plane you say didn't hit the Pentagon than
believe your silly theory.

Newps wrote:

According to the article, the alledged hijackers would have had to be
trained instrument pilots,

No.

They were actually certificated Commercial Pilots with Instrument
Ratings plus they took lessons in


and thoroughly familiar with the 757/767 six
large screen LCD display in order to pilot the aircraft.

No.


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