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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
She's fiscally conservative (thank goodness), pro-family without being sickeningly uber-religious, well educated, well spoken, and is comfortable in front of cameras. That's called a "home run" in politics, and McCain showed (for at least this moment) a true stroke of leadership genius when he took this very risky step. I couldn't disagree more that it was "genius," but I do agree it was risky. I had been on the fence, and it's a deal breaker for me. There are plenty of fiscally conservative, pro-family, well-educated, well-spoken, comfortable-in-front-of-cameras people who aren't any more QUALIFIED to *possibly* be our next President than Ms. Palin. Of all the people McCain knows from his lengthy career in politics, Ms. Palin is the most qualified person he can come up with to be our Commander in Chief in his absence? We're supposed to be happy about that? Tells me all I need to know about his decision-making as far as who he, as President, would appoint to various position ON OUR BEHALF ... i.e., someone he's known for 6 months and met with *twice*. That's not exactly confidence-inspiring! Genius? I have a different word for it. Also, despite what you say about her politics being different than Hillary's, I think she may sway a lot of women voters, for two reasons: 1. There *are* a lot of single-issue voters, and being a woman is a big reason they will vote for her. I'm a woman voter. I couldn't care less that Palin is a woman. I want someone with the QUALIFICATIONS and experience to take over if something should happen to him. Less than a handful of years in Alaska and an activist in the PTA aren't what I consider qualified to be POTUS, and that *is* what people consider when a 72-year-old presidential candidate with prior health issues picks a running mate. And I'm a pilot, too, but the fact that she owns a Cub on floats isn't a relevant reason for me to automatically vote for her, either! 2. A lot of women HATED Hillary. There was no "middle ground" with Hillary -- you either loved her, or hated her, and I know just as many women who despised her as loved her. Palin, on the other hand, seems to be well-liked by all women, at least so far. She's not "well-liked" by me and several other women I know, at least not in the context of possibly being our next President! She may be a great person and a good mom, but again, those qualities alone don't make a person qualified to be President. That, of course, can turn on a dime in our country. All it will take is one compromising photograph, or one sniff of a shady deal, and POOF -- her candidacy will be gone. How about QUALIFICATIONS? I personally couldn't care less about compromising photos or if the baby is hers or her daughter's ... I want someone who is QUALIFIED. Shirl |
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Martin Hotze wrote:
IBTD. If she is really as she was presented on several news channels here, well, than the picture we have here (stereotypes) is well served. from these news: - former modell (2nd place) - pro guns - pro death penalty - pro drilling in oekological sensitive areas - 'anti-green' - very conservative these points - IMHO - do not serve Hillary fans. It is not enought to share the same chromosome setup. :-) The suggestion (and I do realize that's the idea) that many women who supported Hillary will support Palin *just because she is also a woman*, regardless of her politics or her lack of qualifications, is downright insulting. |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote: John Smith wrote in news:jsmith-D2286B.10241331082008 @nntp.aioe.org: Obama/Biden did their dog and pony show here in Dublin OH yesterday evening. It is amazing how truely stupid the average American is. Less than 30% of all eligible voters are registerd, yet they will go stand in line for six or more hours to listen to a pair of politicians talk for one hour about things they have absolutely no intention of doing. Really? How many of the people who stood in line are not registered? Did you take a straw poll? Curiously, that wasn't a question on the Obama/Biden admission registration card. That would certainly have provided some useful information, wouldn't it? Of course, some people lie about everything on those cards so it is difficult to determine an accurate number. |
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John Smith wrote in
: In article , Bertie the Bunyip wrote: John Smith wrote in news:jsmith-D2286B.10241331082008 @nntp.aioe.org: Obama/Biden did their dog and pony show here in Dublin OH yesterday evening. It is amazing how truely stupid the average American is. Less than 30% of all eligible voters are registerd, yet they will go stand in line for six or more hours to listen to a pair of politicians talk for one hour about things they have absolutely no intention of doing. Really? How many of the people who stood in line are not registered? Did you take a straw poll? Curiously, that wasn't a question on the Obama/Biden admission registration card. That would certainly have provided some useful information, wouldn't it? Of course, some people lie about everything on those cards so it is difficult to determine an accurate number. So, what percentage do you reckon would have lied as well as not being registered? Bertie |
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On Aug 30, 1:41 pm, "Ramsey" @##@.^net wrote:
"Bich Ahrens" wrote in message ouse.com... on 8/30/2008 9:02 AM Ramsey said the following: You are truly twisted, and will always suffer, until you come to terms with your own personal issues. And if by accident you really are a pilot, I pity anyone that flies on your aircraft, or has to work with you. I know your type very well, I grew up next door neighbor just like you. And did he warn you to never tell your mommy about the little games you played together? That would explain a lot about you, Maxie... Ah, but that sounds like the voice of experience Bich. Did we strike a nerve? Is that the connection between Bertie and Bich? That would explain a lot about you too Bich. Why a grown man, and supposed pilot, would waste his time running around on the Usenet defending some lamer that wastes his time haunting the troll groups and websites. Lost in some fascination that he is some kind of world class celebrity, for his cowardly personal attacks on anyone that disagrees with him, or resists his control of their forum. And what, geni-ass boi, does your reply to a so called 'troll' say about you? Not so grown and not so manly perhaps? |
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On Aug 31, 9:33 am, "Ramsey" @##@.^net wrote:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message ouse.com... Damn Rich Bich, looks like you and Mikey Mouth have both been taking hat dancing lessons from Buttlipps. I would think supposed grown men and pilots would have higher goals than running the Usenet playing suckup for some troll wannabe like Buttlipps, but I guess not. Hell no; you're proof of that. Unless of course you don't fall into either 'grown' or 'man'. Netkopp. Hows your blood pressure? I'll bet you're a bunch of laffs when you get cut off in traffic, all spluttery and spittle flying about the handlebars of your tricycle. |
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On Aug 31, 8:00 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
well, you're easy to convince. A wife and a plane, THAT's the way to go. hmmm. And, don't forget, McCain's wife owns a beer distribution company... :-) Seriously, however, all of Obama's talk about "Hope & Change" (whatever that means) seemed to go out the window when he selected "More of the Same" Biden as his running mate. Until then, he seemed like the real maverick in the race. McCain's selection of Governor Palin, on the other hand, represents a bold new direction, while also harkening back to the "pre-RINO days" (RINO= "Republican In Name Only" -- the idiots who were elected as Republicans, and then abandoned all of their principles the moment they hit Washington) of the Republican party. She's fiscally conservative (thank goodness), pro-family without being sickeningly uber-religious, well educated, well spoken, and is comfortable in front of cameras. That's called a "home run" in politics, and McCain showed (for at least this moment) a true stroke of leadership genius when he took this very risky step. Also, despite what you say about her politics being different than Hillary's, I think she may sway a lot of women voters, for two reasons: 1. There *are* a lot of single-issue voters, and being a woman is a big reason they will vote for her. 2. A lot of women HATED Hillary. There was no "middle ground" with Hillary -- you either loved her, or hated her, and I know just as many women who despised her as loved her. Palin, on the other hand, seems to be well-liked by all women, at least so far. That was my thinking too, until it turned out she was a Buchnan supporter and seriously anti-abortion. Now I don't know any Hillary-ites but I doubt that many of them would shoot themselves in the gender foot by voting for a woman whose views are so divergent from those represented by Hillary. |
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Shirl wrote: I'm a woman voter. I couldn't care less that Palin is a woman. I want someone with the QUALIFICATIONS and experience to take over if something should happen to him. Less than a handful of years in Alaska and an activist in the PTA aren't what I consider qualified to be POTUS, and that *is* what people consider when a 72-year-old presidential candidate with prior health issues picks a running mate. Somehow I have difficulty putting much emphasis on the complaint that the GOP VP nominee isn't qualified to assume the responsibilities of the president given the Dem's presidental nominee's qualifications. I think there are more fundamental reasons to vote for Obama or vote for McCain. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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Bob Noel wrote:
I think there are more fundamental reasons to vote for Obama or vote for McCain. What's "fundamental" to one voter may not be viewed the same by another. Clearly, a presidential candidate's choice for a running mate *is* fundamental to many voters or there wouldn't be such a huge reaction to this choice. |
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