"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton

Larry,

I have no quarrel with organized religion as a civilizing force that
fosters brotherhood and community among its followers,


I wouldn't, either. Didn't know there are any religions like that,
though.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"Morgans" wrote in
:


"Jay Honeck" wrote

The religious right in the US scares me almost as much as
Islamo-fascism. In fact, they are two sides of the same coin.

Really?

I hope that "almost" you speak of has several orders of magnitude
behind it.

I don't see many religious right people in the US strapping ball
bearing and nails around their body over the top of several pounds of
plastic explosive.

Nope, they just hop into B 52s and bomb entire cities.

To say nothing of the odd abortion clinic.

I'm with Jay and Bertie on this. Christian fascists are not much
different from Islamic fascists (or Jewish fascists for that matter). I
think the main reason they don't resort to retail violence like the
Jihadists is they can afford to buy it wholesale.

Not that this has anything to do with flying.

rg

Matt,

Dr. Steven Austin, who received his doctorate from Penn State. He
conducted much of the research on the area at and around Mount St.
Helens after the eruption.

http://www.creationism.org/sthelens/MSH1b_7wonders.htm

I couldn't care less where the man got his doctorate. What I do care about is: What
are his findings? They are not really mentioned on the page you give. Did he
publish his findings in a peer reviewed journal? Which? If "creationism.org" is the
only place that would publish what he has to say, that pretty much discounts it
right away.

Of course it won't as the mainstream scientific community has
preconceived ideas and fits their "data" to their ideas rather than
their ideas to the actual data.

And I'm sure you can prove that? Don't bother, I know you can't.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

John,

well put!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Matt,

This will become very apparent within a few
decades when all of the global warming, er, global climate change
"scientists" are proven wrong.

You know what, let's discuss that in 20 years on that cruise through
the Northwest passage.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Matt,

Denying the theory of evolution is not necessarily anti-science.

I can't see how it isn't.

If the theory is incorrect, then denying it is not anti-science at all.

BS. If someone is "denying" evolution, he or she needs too present a better
explanation of the facts. No one has. Evolution is the currently accepted
"best fit" to the facts in the scientific sense.

No argument here. The trouble is that much of today's science is based
on some very false assumptions made by Darwin and others.

No way you are dragging me in your kook bin like that. There are no fals
assumptions that trouble "much of today's science".

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

John,

Even in grade school the nuns taught us that science and faith can easily co-exist.


Ah, maybe nuns are not the most neutral source on this ;-)

I'm not sure they can.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Jay,

The religious right in the US scares me almost as much as Islamo-fascism.
In fact, they are two sides of the same coin.


We are indeed in full agreement. And on my birthday, to boot.

If that ain't proof of god... ;-)

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Morgans,

I have yet to hear them preach death to all unbelievers.


Just read the standard hate mail from religious right people to their
"opponents". Not very Christian at all, one might add.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

I don't see many religious right people in the US strapping ball bearing
and nails around their body over the top of several pounds of plastic
explosive. I don't see them targeting their own countrymen with assault
rifles and grenade launchers. I have yet to hear them preach death to all
unbelievers.

McVay ring any bells? How about murders of abortion clinic people. In truth
I don't think it has as much to do with religion as has been reported.
Likely more to do with the political situation, struggle for power, poverty.

Really Jay, I understand your reservations and fear about fanatical
Christians, but to compare the two groups is totally un-American, I think.
You know better than to have that kind of knee jerk reaction.
--
Jim in NC

Any fanatical devotion to a leader- religious or political -is wrong, and
dangerous.