NY Times Story on Pilot Population Decline

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Peter Clark wrote:

A 2006 C172 with G1000 goes for about $140. Older VFR 172's can be
rented for under $100 and 152's for conciderably less.

$125 for the 172S G1000 at BED. $90 for the 152.

Aren't rates at KBED inflated because of Massport-induced
expenses? Massport skims 2-3% of the gross. terminal rents at
Massport are excessive. Plus the unjustified expenses associated
with airport access.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Roger (K8RI) writes:

No it's not.
It's just becoming more isolated from the upper and lower classes.

It's actually disappearing, not just becoming isolated. The distribution of
wealth is moving back to the way it was in the nineteenth century, with a very
small minority of very wealthy people and a very vast underclass that just
manages to squeak by--and almost no real middle class at all.

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And, it is still the case that Social Security represents the only
source of retirement pension income for the vast majority of
Americans.

Yeah, it's a damned shame it was ever created.

Not that I disagree with you -- but your statement seems incredibly
ironic given that you are the beneficiary of a tax-funded retirement
plan that is far more generous than Social Security.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

writes:

There is also a huge change in the definition of "starter". Once upon
a time, it was under 1,000 sf, had electricity and gas, a washer in
the laundry, one bathroom, and perhaps an attached carport. Now it's
wired like a computer business, has AC (but is not any better
insulated than in 1950), a small gourmet kitchen, complete laundry in
the air conditioned space, probably two enclosed garages, a fireplace
even if you live in the desert, and most likely you are forced to pay
homage to an HOA. After that, you MUST have HDTV, DVD, Satellite TV,
cable, digital phones, internet capability hooked up, automatic garage
door openers, security system, automatic porch and garage lights, the
fridge has two doors with auto ice and water, the kitchen has a
garbage disposal, dishwasher, perhaps a wine cooler. You now have a
"master suite" with its own separate bathroom, a whirlpool tub and
separate shower, and two sinks.
In short, the starter house, or any other house, has a lot more stuff
than it did in 1950, and it all costs money.

Actually, what you describe was a starter home in the 1970s (except for the
whirlpool tub), and it still cost only about 1.5 times a person's annual
salary.

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Teacher's unions are a large lobby and can get special treatment
from politicians.

Boy, ain't *that* the truth?

Every teacher in the State of Iowa was unilaterally granted a FIVE
THOUSAND DOLLAR PER YEAR raise this past week, with the stroke of our
new governor's pen. No improvements required, no added work -- just
pure, hard cash doled out to each and every teacher, regardless of
performance.

I, of course, expect my children's education to improve
commensurately...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

What an ass.

The cable bill is $100 per month. The Cessna bill is $150 per hour. The
choice is easy.


Because you don't/can't fly.


Bertie

wrote:

On Apr 26, 6:32 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
There is also a huge change in the definition of "starter". Once upon
a time, it was under 1,000 sf, had electricity and gas, a washer in
the laundry, one bathroom, and perhaps an attached carport.

It is funny how close to the description of my house this is; built in
1940, less than 1000 sf including the one car garage/laundry room (by
one car garage it means that it fits one subcompact with just enough room
to get out of the car providing no storing of any junk in the garage);
the only thing that was not there when the house was built is a DSL
connection... The nice thing is that it has a very decent sized back yard.
Which is exactly what I was looking for, except that it is difficult
to find, everything on the market (either to buy or rent) strives to
be exactly the opposite: tiny/no backyard, as many built square feet as
possible (you know, for the 'formal dining room', the
'imposing hallway', the 'vaulted ceiling', the 'three cars garage' which
can fit three massive SUVs with room to spare, and all that crap museum
space that nobody really use except to impress each others -- or to
store vast amount of junk); I mean is it really what people want or
what they think they want because of massive advertising/tv brain washing?
or am I a dying breed?

--Sylvain

I see ONE method of Government responsibility and accountability:
T E R M L I M I T S

Not a solution. Play the part of a term-limited politician. How would
you remain powerful? It's not so hard.

Jose
--
Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

I'm more than a little uneasy with the government rewarding "good" behavior, as the definition of "good" changes from administration to administration, but the mechanism for rewards remains in place.
Jose
Its called social engineering and it breeds corruption and the
affording of 'special favors" to certain groups and favored
businesses by various politicians.

True. But just to play the other side for a moment, this same social
engineering (through tax incentives) has made it easier for Americans to
own their own homes. Or so I'm told. Actually, in the Dominican
Republic, where we sponsor several impoverished children, even the very
poor own their own homes. Outright. Granted, they are not the same
quality of home as we have here, but they are owned, where here in the
US, the less well off rent.

Maybe government zoning and construction laws have something to do with it.

And public libraries are nothing more than a communist or socialist
wealth redistribution mechanism too, but I wouldn't be without them.

The issue is not as simple as either side paints it.

Jose
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I'm more than a little uneasy with the government rewarding "good"
behavior, as the definition of "good" changes from administration to
administration, but the mechanism for rewards remains in place.
I understand your concern. If the solution were simple, it would been
put into action long ago.

The problem with that thinking is the idea that there is =a= solution
(that is, a solution that would please the providers as much as the
recipients).

It's like the "drug problem". Too many people benefit from this
"problem" for it to go away.

Jose
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Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.