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Old May 13th 04, 02:23 PM
Teacherjh
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...Texans think meat for barbecue
comes from a steer, so what do you
know? g


Any moron can make pig taste good. The art of barbeque is taking a
cheap cut of tough beef and turning it into...


Pig? I was thinking Gator. Now that's a barbacue.

Jose

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Old May 13th 04, 02:32 PM
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As a Southerner "born and bred", I can tell you that while all of this
conversatin' was going on, the neighbor would have drunk up all the man's
Jack, humped his wife, stole his dawg, and headed out the door.

Then, in true Southern fashion, the man would have told his neighbor: "Well,
ya'll come again, ya hear?"



"alexy" wrote in message
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Greg Copeland wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004 21:53:53 +0000, Gary Drescher wrote:


The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary defines y'all as "YOU--usually

used in
addressing two or more persons or sometimes one person as representing

also
another or others".



Exactly. So, if you stepped over to see a neighbor, and the neighbor
asked, "how y'all do'n?", he would be asking one of two things. He is
wanting to know how I'm doing

Not according to the definition posted above. He is clearly not
addressing two or more persons. Instead he is addressing one person as
representing also another (e.g. your wife) or others (e.g, your
family). So he might be asking how you and your wife are doing, or how
you and your family are doing, but not how just you are doing.
or, how me and my family are doing. A
response which addresses either yourself and/or yourself and your family
is accepted. So, you can see it's being used either singularly or in the
plural (one person as presenting another or others). Your answer would
more than likely be guided by how long it had been since you last spoke
and by how much time you have to chew the fat.


Just curious -- any experience communicating in the South? I'd guess
not much.g

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Old May 13th 04, 02:51 PM
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Margy Natalie wrote:

I know of at least one northerner who learned "y'all" when she moved to GA and
it was singular as "all y'all" was the plural in that region.


Well, it wasn't in Atlanta during the nine years I lived there.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.
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Old May 13th 04, 04:22 PM
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I am fin to go the the store.

That's a common contraction in Black English, too.

Which, of course, is just an offshoot of Southern English, with sprinklings
of Cajun and African.

When I worked in the inner city, it was like learning a new foreign
language.

Had to learn the gang hand signals, too....
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Old May 13th 04, 05:43 PM
Greg Copeland
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 08:32:20 -0500, Bill Denton wrote:

As a Southerner "born and bred", I can tell you that while all of this
conversatin' was going on, the neighbor would have drunk up all the man's
Jack, humped his wife, stole his dawg, and headed out the door.

Then, in true Southern fashion, the man would have told his neighbor: "Well,
ya'll come again, ya hear?"


LOL!

In Kentucky and Alabama, it's sometimes a little different. There, they
drink all the Jack, jump his dawg and steal his wife. Worse, he then has
to explain the presence of the women he stole to his sister. And for
sure, the sister is going to complain about there being three in the bed!
:O




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Old May 13th 04, 05:46 PM
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On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:55:24 +0000, alexy wrote:

Greg Copeland wrote:


I'm in Texas and he's got it nailed. Though I have seen Y'All used for
both singual and plural too.


But we are talking about the South, not Texas! Heck, I even hear that
you Texans think meat for barbecue comes from a steer, so what do you
know? g

(That should stir the pot!)


LOL!

At least Texas has it figured out that you don't base your BBQ on
mustard! Or worse, mostly vinegar! Ack!


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Old May 13th 04, 06:19 PM
Greg Copeland
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 03:44:17 +0000, alexy wrote:

Greg Copeland wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004 21:53:53 +0000, Gary Drescher wrote:


The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary defines y'all as "YOU--usually used in
addressing two or more persons or sometimes one person as representing also
another or others".



Exactly. So, if you stepped over to see a neighbor, and the neighbor
asked, "how y'all do'n?", he would be asking one of two things. He is
wanting to know how I'm doing

Not according to the definition posted above. He is clearly not
addressing two or more persons. Instead he is addressing one person as
representing also another (e.g. your wife) or others (e.g, your
family). So he might be asking how you and your wife are doing, or how
you and your family are doing, but not how just you are doing.
or, how me and my family are doing. A
response which addresses either yourself and/or yourself and your family
is accepted. So, you can see it's being used either singularly or in the
plural (one person as presenting another or others). Your answer would
more than likely be guided by how long it had been since you last spoke
and by how much time you have to chew the fat.


Just curious -- any experience communicating in the South? I'd guess
not much.g


I've lived in the South most of my life.


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Old May 13th 04, 06:30 PM
alexy
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Greg Copeland wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004 20:55:24 +0000, alexy wrote:

Greg Copeland wrote:


I'm in Texas and he's got it nailed. Though I have seen Y'All used for
both singual and plural too.


But we are talking about the South, not Texas! Heck, I even hear that
you Texans think meat for barbecue comes from a steer, so what do you
know? g

(That should stir the pot!)


LOL!

At least Texas has it figured out that you don't base your BBQ on
mustard! Or worse, mostly vinegar! Ack!

I tend to like tomato-based sauces, as well, but I do enjoy one of the
Carolinas' barbecues for a change of pace.
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Old May 13th 04, 06:34 PM
alexy
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Greg Copeland wrote:



I've lived in the South most of my life.


My apologies, then. What part? I'm curious, since I have never heard
of this concept of singular "y'all" except from those faking the
accent. And Webster clearly agrees. Did you or your parents learn the
dialect rather than growing up in it? Maybe someone taught them wrong!
g
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  #150  
Old May 13th 04, 07:30 PM
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"BllFs6" wrote:
They just say this:

I am fin store.

And I even heard just this:

Fin store.

Now THATS some contractionating


I'll say. I've lived in the South all my life and never heard those.
Southern dialects may sound quaint but they at least have an internal
grammatical consistency. Those don't even make sense.
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