How to land on a grass airstrip

Can anybody point out a good bibliography or article that describes the
differences in landing on a grass airstrip for the first time, tips and
advices? Thanks

drclive wrote:
Can anybody point out a good bibliography or article that describes the
differences in landing on a grass airstrip for the first time, tips and
advices? Thanks

Rent a CFI?

No difference, just land normally...

Cheers Quilly

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On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:14:25 +0100, Quilljar wrote:

No difference, just land normally...

Incorrect advice.....

You want to land as softly and as slowly as possible on a grass strip.

Also want to keep the nosewheel off terra firma as long as possible so it
doesn't run the risk of "digging in" from the weight of the engine and prop
when the nose wheel does touch down.

After touchtown, the yoke should be full aft.

Taxiing on soft fields is also significantly different. You hold the yoke
back full aft and taxi with more power to ease the pressure of the nose
wheel.

Allen

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A Lieberman wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:14:25 +0100, Quilljar wrote:

No difference, just land normally...

Incorrect advice.....

You want to land as softly and as slowly as possible on a grass strip.

Also want to keep the nosewheel off terra firma as long as possible so it
doesn't run the risk of "digging in" from the weight of the engine and prop
when the nose wheel does touch down.

After touchtown, the yoke should be full aft.

Taxiing on soft fields is also significantly different. You hold the yoke
back full aft and taxi with more power to ease the pressure of the nose
wheel.

Allen

This all sounds like "landing normally" to me!

A,

You want to land as softly and as slowly as possible on a grass strip.

Also want to keep the nosewheel off terra firma as long as possible so it
doesn't run the risk of "digging in" from the weight of the engine and prop
when the nose wheel does touch down.

After touchtown, the yoke should be full aft.

Taxiing on soft fields is also significantly different. You hold the yoke
back full aft and taxi with more power to ease the pressure of the nose
wheel.


Which part of that would not be beneficial on asphalt?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:31:30 +0200, Thomas Borchert wrote:

Taxiing on soft fields is also significantly different. You hold the yoke
back full aft and taxi with more power to ease the pressure of the nose
wheel.


Which part of that would not be beneficial on asphalt?

Yoke FULL aft AND more power to keep nose wheel off the runway.

Allen

A Lieberman wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:14:25 +0100, Quilljar wrote:


No difference, just land normally...


Incorrect advice.....

You want to land as softly and as slowly as possible on a grass strip.

Baloney. He didn't ask about landing on a soft field, he said a grass
airstrip. Grass doesn't imply a soft field at all.


Also want to keep the nosewheel off terra firma as long as possible so it
doesn't run the risk of "digging in" from the weight of the engine and prop
when the nose wheel does touch down.

Again, only if this is a soft field. Grass strip isn't synonymous with
soft field. If you don't know the difference, I suggest some remedial
instruction.


After touchtown, the yoke should be full aft.

This is true for all landings :-)


Taxiing on soft fields is also significantly different. You hold the yoke
back full aft and taxi with more power to ease the pressure of the nose
wheel.

Right, but he didn't ask about a soft field.


Matt

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:10:28 GMT, Matt Whiting wrote:

A Lieberman wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:14:25 +0100, Quilljar wrote:


No difference, just land normally...


Incorrect advice.....

You want to land as softly and as slowly as possible on a grass strip.

Baloney. He didn't ask about landing on a soft field, he said a grass
airstrip. Grass doesn't imply a soft field at all.

You are still wrong. Unless the sub surface of the grass is a hard as
concrete, grass adds drag on ground ops. Add some weight, and you have
even more drag since now the wheels are not exactly on top of your surface.
Grass strips are not hard top runways.

Since I couldn't find a "legal definition" of soft field, I will put the
ball in your court to prove me wrong that grass strips are not soft fields.

Again, only if this is a soft field. Grass strip isn't synonymous with
soft field. If you don't know the difference, I suggest some remedial
instruction.

Sounds like maybe you need to check into remedial training. I'd say my
method of assuming all grass fields are soft fields will save my hardware
quicker then your assumptions. Grass strips don't have asphalt or concrete
which equals soft field. I'd sure like to see you prove me wrong, as I am
always learning....

Taxiing on soft fields is also significantly different. You hold the yoke
back full aft and taxi with more power to ease the pressure of the nose
wheel.

Right, but he didn't ask about a soft field.

See above, grass strips are not concrete runways, the sub surface the grass
is growing on adds drag to ground ops which is a distinctly different
technique then hard top runways / taxiways.

Not only that, more irregularities in the surface and taxiing or landing at
an excessive speed WITHOUT using soft field techniques will just invite you
to a potential prop strike if your nose wheel just happens to dig in.

Allen

Matt Whiting wrote:

Again, only if this is a soft field. Grass strip isn't synonymous with soft field. If you don't
know the difference, I suggest some remedial instruction.


Ok Matt, I fess up to being one who doesn't. Isn't a non-asphalt
surface like grass what's called soft-field? This looks confusing...

Ramapriya