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Jim Watt wrote in message . ..
On 4 Aug 2003 19:32:23 -0700, (vince) wrote: "William Black" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... Why occupy someone elses country against the wishes of its inhabitants ? Like IRELAND? And which bit of the island of Ireland is occupied against the wishes of a majority of its inhabitants? oooooo how clever if you kill the inhabitants and bring in your own folks its never "occupied against the wishes of a majority of its inhabitants?" Vince Like Indians, I have reservations. People who are born in Ireland are Irish, people who pretend they are Irish because their ancestors fled the potato famine or the police, and settled in another land displacing its indigenous people are more correctly called Americans - when being polite. nonsense. nations are characterized both by cultural descent and by attachment to a place. Inhabiting the place is neither necessary nor suffiient to constitute "attachment" Diasporas do not change the fact of who is a member of the national community In the case of any country occupied by force this is especially important. Vince |
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"Jim Watt" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:23:47 -0500, "Jim" wrote: What is unsatisfactory in your View might I ask.. The fact that your government is detaining British citizens illegally. and that they are facing a kangaroo court. -- Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com Oh I see... Now I get it... you disagree with our (the US) Kangroo Kourt and you agree with the (EU- Brussles ) Kangroo Kourt? It guess it just depends if you control the Kangroos (judges) very intresting. Jim |
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Like Indians, I have reservations. People who are born in Ireland are Irish, people who pretend they are Irish because their ancestors fled the potato famine or the police, and settled in another land displacing its indigenous people are more correctly called Americans - when being polite. -- Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com No we screwed Native Americans no about that, (as did the French and British and Spanish before us) I am honest enough to admit that. However , Indians are Americans by your definition... I wounder is a Brit born in Hong Kong then Chinese? Pounder that... As for Americans of Irish decent, or English decent or German decent, we may be americans as country of birth however our ancestry and etnicity. can be English or german or dutch Irish ..... For example I am an American with English, Welsh Danish and German ancestors. One last observation, it must really **** the old world off that the dregs and cast outs of your Euoroean Society have grown up to be Stronger, faster, Richer, freer and could have if we trully wished stepped on you like a bug. Jim |
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- when being polite.
nonsense. nations are characterized both by cultural descent and by attachment to a place. Inhabiting the place is neither necessary nor suffiient to constitute "attachment" Diasporas do not change the fact of who is a member of the national community In the case of any country occupied by force this is especially important. Vince No Vince, Brits born in Honk Kong are chineese..... Jim |
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On 5 Aug 2003 07:42:17 -0700, (vince) wrote:
Jim Watt wrote in message . .. On 4 Aug 2003 19:32:23 -0700, (vince) wrote: "William Black" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... Why occupy someone elses country against the wishes of its inhabitants ? Like IRELAND? And which bit of the island of Ireland is occupied against the wishes of a majority of its inhabitants? oooooo how clever if you kill the inhabitants and bring in your own folks its never "occupied against the wishes of a majority of its inhabitants?" Vince Like Indians, I have reservations. People who are born in Ireland are Irish, people who pretend they are Irish because their ancestors fled the potato famine or the police, and settled in another land displacing its indigenous people are more correctly called Americans - when being polite. nonsense. nations are characterized both by cultural descent and by attachment to a place. Inhabiting the place is neither necessary nor suffiient to constitute "attachment" Diasporas do not change the fact of who is a member of the national community In the case of any country occupied by force this is especially important. Vince Northern Ireland is somewhat different to Palestine and Iraq. I see the churches in Dublin are being replaced by mosques and the nigerians now run the protection rackets. The Tinkers get mugged by Albanians and a Europe with open frontiers means that Ireland now has an immigration problem. -- Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com |
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:33:58 -0500, "Jim" wrote:
One last observation, it must really **** the old world off that the dregs and cast outs of your Euoroean Society have grown up to be Stronger, faster, Richer, freer and could have if we trully wished stepped on you like a bug. No, we just cringe at those sufficiently ignorant as to believe their own propaganda. -- Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com |
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:05:22 -0500, "Jim" wrote:
"Jim Watt" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:23:47 -0500, "Jim" wrote: What is unsatisfactory in your View might I ask.. The fact that your government is detaining British citizens illegally. and that they are facing a kangaroo court. -- Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com Oh I see... Now I get it... you disagree with our (the US) Kangroo Kourt and you agree with the (EU- Brussles ) Kangroo Kourt? It guess it just depends if you control the Kangroos (judges) very intresting. Jim One has an independent judicary which nobody controls and the other takes orders from the military, compare and contrast. -- Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com |
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"vince" wrote in message om... "William Black" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... Why occupy someone elses country against the wishes of its inhabitants ? Like IRELAND? And which bit of the island of Ireland is occupied against the wishes of a majority of its inhabitants? oooooo how clever if you kill the inhabitnats nd bring inyour own folks its never "occupied against the wishes of a majority of its inhabitants?" Come off it Vince, it's all from well before anyone but Indians were a majority where you live. -- William Black ------------------ On time, on budget, or works; Pick any two from three |
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"William Black" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... On my Visit to Ireland I came to the understanding from talking to Irishmen that the majority of "Irish" would perfer the British left... The Irish I talked with made it clear there was 1 Ireland and the only reason there is a notheren is a minority of Irishmen (ulsters??) wish the I imagine something similar gets said in Iraq as well. However Ireland has been occupied and held since 1172 or there abouts the south release in the 1920's I guess you will have a valid argument if we are still occupying IRAQ in say 800 years. jim |
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