Flying patterns

Where on the Web can I learn more about flying traffic patterns? I
see constant references to them in various sources, but nothing that
explains exactly when they are used, and how.

For example, after reading for a while, I think I now understand what
the crosswind, base, final, and downwind legs are. But I can't find
out how long these legs are supposed to be, or what radius or type of
turns are expected to move from leg to leg. Are these patterns of a
standard size, or do they vary from one airport to another? If all
VFR aircraft (or IFR aircraft too?) enter the pattern, and all at the
same altitude, how do they avoid collisions, especially with the
disparate speeds that one sees from one aircraft to another?

I trying flying some of these patterns in the sim this morning. I
didn't do too badly, but I think I was still off the mark. And I
don't know how tightly the pattern must be adhered to.

Does everyone enter the pattern no matter what the direction from
which they approach the airport? Does it always have to be an entry
at a certain spot from a certain angle? I'm confused about how these
work. Pointers to useful Web explanations would be most appreciated.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Where on the Web can I learn more about flying traffic patterns? I
see constant references to them in various sources, but nothing that
explains exactly when they are used, and how.

For example, after reading for a while, I think I now understand what
the crosswind, base, final, and downwind legs are. But I can't find
out how long these legs are supposed to be, or what radius or type of
turns are expected to move from leg to leg. Are these patterns of a
standard size, or do they vary from one airport to another? If all
VFR aircraft (or IFR aircraft too?) enter the pattern, and all at the
same altitude, how do they avoid collisions, especially with the
disparate speeds that one sees from one aircraft to another?

I trying flying some of these patterns in the sim this morning. I
didn't do too badly, but I think I was still off the mark. And I
don't know how tightly the pattern must be adhered to.

Does everyone enter the pattern no matter what the direction from
which they approach the airport? Does it always have to be an entry
at a certain spot from a certain angle? I'm confused about how these
work. Pointers to useful Web explanations would be most appreciated.

All you question will be answered if you buy a copy of FAR/AIM.
"Federal Aviation Regulations / Airman's Information Manual"

Stubby writes:

All you question will be answered if you buy a copy of FAR/AIM.
"Federal Aviation Regulations / Airman's Information Manual"

Thanks. I found something call the Aeronautical Information Manual,
which looks like it might be the same thing (?).

I had previously downloaded the Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical
Knowledge, but it didn't seem to cover these things. I have the
Instrument Flying Handbook, also, although I assumed that the patterns
under discussion here were specific to VFR (?).

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Mxsmanic,

Thanks. I found something call the Aeronautical Information Manual,
which looks like it might be the same thing (?).

I had previously downloaded the Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical
Knowledge, but it didn't seem to cover these things. I have the
Instrument Flying Handbook, also, although I assumed that the patterns
under discussion here were specific to VFR (?).


And after you've read those, read the corresponding ICAO documents and
you'll see how much France does things without exceptions and the US
has tons.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert writes:

And after you've read those, read the corresponding ICAO documents and
you'll see how much France does things without exceptions and the US
has tons.

Nevertheless, I'd prefer to do it the US way.

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Stubby wrote:
All you question will be answered if you buy a copy of FAR/AIM.
"Federal Aviation Regulations / Airman's Information Manual"

In other words,

READ THE ****IN' MANUAL !!!

Mxsmanic wrote:

Where on the Web can I learn more about flying traffic patterns? I
see constant references to them in various sources, but nothing that
explains exactly when they are used, and how.


well, at least as far as things happen on this side of the pond,
you'll find plenty to read he

Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge FAA-H-8083-25 Revised 2003;
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...ilot_handbook/
Airplane Flying Handbook FAA-H-8083-3 Revised 1999;
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...lane_handbook/

And there is plenty more where it comes from; for instance I
understand that you are a simmer, so may be would you also be
interested in reading a bit about instrument flying as well:

Instrument Flying Handbook FAA-H-8083-15 Revised 2001;
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...ying_handbook/
Instrument Procedures Handbook FAA-H-8261-1 Revised 2004;
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...ures_handbook/

But you'll also find the handbooks for flying helicopters or gliders or
balloons, etc.

And finally, lots of goodies to be found in the regulations (you
might want to start with Chapters 1, 61 and 91 of the regulations,
and read pretty much everything in the AIM):

2005 14 CFR (FAR) and AIM;
http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...a_regulations/

--Sylvain

Sylvain writes:

well, at least as far as things happen on this side of the pond,
you'll find plenty to read he

Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge FAA-H-8083-25 Revised 2003;
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...ilot_handbook/

I have this one.

Airplane Flying Handbook FAA-H-8083-3 Revised 1999;
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...lane_handbook/

Found it, thanks. I try to find the PDF versions and download those,
as they are easier and more convenient to read. I already had found
the Pilot's Handbook and an Instrument Flying Handbook, but I tend to
get them all confused.

I've seen hard copy of one or two books in the pilot shop I've
visited, but that's too expensive. The PDFs appear to contain exactly
the same thing, for free.

And there is plenty more where it comes from; for instance I
understand that you are a simmer, so may be would you also be
interested in reading a bit about instrument flying as well:

Instrument Flying Handbook FAA-H-8083-15 Revised 2001;
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...ying_handbook/

I have that one.

Instrument Procedures Handbook FAA-H-8261-1 Revised 2004;
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...ures_handbook/

Downloading that one now.

And finally, lots of goodies to be found in the regulations (you
might want to start with Chapters 1, 61 and 91 of the regulations,
and read pretty much everything in the AIM):

2005 14 CFR (FAR) and AIM;
http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...a_regulations/

I've read some of this before, but not in depth.

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