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"mike regish" wrote in message news:gRkAb.315222$275.1065859@attbi_s53... | You are so out of touch. Tell me. Bush keeps saying that war is a last | resort. If he meant that, then why didn't he at least give the inspections a | chance. Inspections were given a chance for more than 10 years. How much of a chance did you want? Meanwhile, Hussein was murdering millions of his own people, financing terrorist attacks all over the world, and continuing to threaten his neighbors. I wonder how many people had to die before you thought action was necessary? However, my point stands. I find the constant anti-Bush, anti-American, off topic postings from you, Hotze, Dighera and others to be every bit as vile as you think my postings are. I don't think Hotze in particular has ever posted on topic. You might want to think about that before you threaten to plonk people that you consider to be "contemptuous, arrogant, and hateful." Or even rich. I did not start this thread. I did not post on it until the thread had been running for several days. If I am offensive, it is deliberately so -- you deserve it. If polite people remain silent while you keep up your constant stream of poison, it is not because they agree with you. I am old and no longer have any reason to be ashamed over anything. Somebody has to stand up to hateful bullies like you. Whether you plonk me or not, I will continue to do so. |
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"Jeffrey Voight" wrote in message ... | It made me furious during the Clinton administration, as well. People | don't seem to understand that *we* elected him. Whether one's | individual vote was for the guy or not, *we*, collectively, elected | these officials. | I have a genuine concern that this country has become so polarized politically that we are on the brink of civil war. |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:59:14 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote in Message-Id: : we are on the brink of civil war I believe you have hit upon the current administration's belief also. |
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On 04 Dec 2003 17:04:07 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet wrote
in Message-Id: : In your view, what were his REAL motives for ousting Saddam? Probably large[ly] to one-up his father. One is able to hypothesize many pragmatic reasons for baby Bush's military action, but his daddy got him elected. And his daddy was roundly faulted for failing to remove Sadam from power in '91, so among other more rational reasons, baby Bush's desire to help his father belatedly save face, and avenge the attempt on his father's life must have been significant motives, as would have been the desire to repay his benefactor(s). (One can only hope his religious beliefs were insignificant in there effect on his decisions.) |
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Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. Look in the mirror sometime. And take
the blinders off. BTW, how disappointed were you when no weapons were found? How disappointed were you when the link to 9/11 was disproved? How disappointed were you when the "yellowcake" scam was debunked? How disappointed were you when the Iraqis didn't welcome us with open arms? How many young American lives do we have to lose before you accept the truth? You just can't get over that disagreeing with the administration is being more American than blind faith, can you? You can't get away from that "We needed to save the Iraqis" crap since you don't have any other legs to stand on, can you? You may just be getting senile. You're to be pitied more than despised. mike regish "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "mike regish" wrote in message news:gRkAb.315222$275.1065859@attbi_s53... | You are so out of touch. Tell me. Bush keeps saying that war is a last | resort. If he meant that, then why didn't he at least give the inspections a | chance. Inspections were given a chance for more than 10 years. How much of a chance did you want? Meanwhile, Hussein was murdering millions of his own people, financing terrorist attacks all over the world, and continuing to threaten his neighbors. I wonder how many people had to die before you thought action was necessary? However, my point stands. I find the constant anti-Bush, anti-American, off topic postings from you, Hotze, Dighera and others to be every bit as vile as you think my postings are. I don't think Hotze in particular has ever posted on topic. You might want to think about that before you threaten to plonk people that you consider to be "contemptuous, arrogant, and hateful." Or even rich. I did not start this thread. I did not post on it until the thread had been running for several days. If I am offensive, it is deliberately so -- you deserve it. If polite people remain silent while you keep up your constant stream of poison, it is not because they agree with you. I am old and no longer have any reason to be ashamed over anything. Somebody has to stand up to hateful bullies like you. Whether you plonk me or not, I will continue to do so. |
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Um, he was appointed. I watched the whole thing.
mike regish "Jeffrey Voight" wrote in message ... It made me furious during the Clinton administration, as well. People don't seem to understand that *we* elected him. Whether one's individual vote was for the guy or not, *we*, collectively, elected these officials. Jeff... Dan Luke wrote: "C J Campbell" wrote: Now, I will tell you what I think is contemptuous, hateful, and outright arrogant: the anti-Bush clowns who can't stand the thought that the man could possibly do anything right. They are absolutely foaming at the mouth over it. One is reminded of exactly the same phenomenon during the Clinton administration. I have made it plain in these newsgroups that I am disappointed in Bush's presidency, particularly his decision to invade Iraq, which I believe is a strategic blunder in the war on terrorism. Nevertheless, the shrieking chorus of Bush haters disturbs me. It reveals the power of hateful propaganda, both left- and right-wing, in America nowadays. People aren't thinking; they are allowing themselves to be led. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "mike regish" wrote in message news:gRkAb.315222$275.1065859@attbi_s53... | You are so out of touch. Tell me. Bush keeps saying that war is a last | resort. If he meant that, then why didn't he at least give the inspections | a chance. Inspections were given a chance for more than 10 years. How much of a chance did you want? Meanwhile, Hussein was murdering millions of his own people, financing terrorist attacks all over the world, and continuing to threaten his neighbors. I wonder how many people had to die before you thought action was necessary? Since when has "murdering millions of his own people" become a justification for pre-emptive military invasion by the United States? This has occurred throughout the world, but only in Iraq is it being used as an excuse to justify the American invasion. In fact, it was not until it became apparent to the world that there were no WMDs, and no terrorists, that this excuse started to become popular. Ironically, Iraq is now becoming a terrorist haven. Where is the evidence that Hussein was "financing terrorist attacks all over the world"? This is another conservative exaggeration or fabrication. Bush was right-on in regard to Afganishtan and he deserves credit for that action. However, quite simply, there is, and was, no justification for the military invasion of Iraq by the US. It was done soley to appease the conservative Chicken Hawks in the Bush adminstration. Bush and Cheny need to be impeached, tried, and imprisoned for this crime. That our military is dying due to the incompetence of Bush is criminal. Nor, to keep on topic for this thread, was sneaking into Iraq and sneaking out 2 hours later a sign that the president has balls. I think it did have a minor, temporary boost to troop morale, but was soon forgotten. Although I am not a Hillary fan, it is apparent the she has more balls than Bush by her going to Afganishtan. However, my point stands. I find the constant anti-Bush, anti-American, off topic postings from you, Hotze, Dighera and others to be every bit as vile as you think my postings are. I don't think Hotze in particular has ever posted on topic. You might want to think about that before you threaten to plonk people that you consider to be "contemptuous, arrogant, and hateful." Or even rich. I did not start this thread. I did not post on it until the thread had been running for several days. If I am offensive, it is deliberately so -- you deserve it. If polite people remain silent while you keep up your constant stream of poison, it is not because they agree with you. I am old and no longer have any reason to be ashamed over anything. Somebody has to stand up to hateful bullies like you. Whether you plonk me or not, I will continue to do so. Perhaps you consider yourself polite but you come across as a grumpy old man. Your uncalled for insult of the Europeans a few days ago is a good example of your mean spiritness. Also, I love the way that conservatives equate opposistion to the Iraq war as being anti-American. If you can't win with the facts then call those who disagree with you traitors. |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:27:03 GMT, mike regish wrote:
How many young American lives do we have to lose before you accept the truth? http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ #m -- http://www.declareyourself.com/fyr_candidates.php http://www.subterrane.com/bush.shtml |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:31:25 GMT, "Earl Grieda"
wrote: Where is the evidence that Hussein was "financing terrorist attacks all over the world"? This is another conservative exaggeration or fabrication. I don't have direct links handy (use Google), but IMHO Hussein himself said something like handing out money to the 9/11 terrorist'S families, or to terrorists in Israel. For sure, Hussein is/was no Saint. I agree on that. Fully. #m -- http://www.declareyourself.com/fyr_candidates.php http://www.subterrane.com/bush.shtml |
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:59:14 -0800 "C J Campbell" wrote:
"Jeffrey Voight" wrote in message ... | It made me furious during the Clinton administration, as well. People | don't seem to understand that *we* elected him. Whether one's | individual vote was for the guy or not, *we*, collectively, elected | these officials. | I have a genuine concern that this country has become so polarized politically that we are on the brink of civil war. I don't think there's enough polarization for that. Most people are hopelessly apathetic. Look at the percentage of people that register to vote. Look at the percentage of registered voters that vote. Look at the recent debacle in California. Voters coerced into voting for a guy who they think can fix all their troubles since he was able to do so in his movies. And on and on. I just don't think there are anywhere near enough people with the kind of fervor required to take up arms against each other. R. Hubbell |
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