Greetings from your friendly, neighborhood, TERRORIST!

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 23:13:49 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Can we EVER know that we're getting the "whole truth"? Of course not.
But
NPR, due to its non-commercial format, does very well.
--

Jay, you should get the Wall Street Journal. Hey! Business expense!

Even better is Investors Business Daily...with it's higher quality
free-market approach than the WSJ and it's Keynesian approach.

Jim Rosinski wrote:

Actually I didn't mean it that way at all. If my words seemed

Oh! Then I'm sorry. I interpreted your remark as: "Hey, you dumb, you're
not even recognizing that you're inconsitent yourself" or something to
that effect. After all, this is usenet...

patronizing, it was only out of respect for the presumption (based on
some trivial grammar errors and your return address) that English is
not your first language.

Actually, it's not even my second, and I know that I'm far from perfect.
But then, judging by usenet articles, I have my doubts whether many
native English speakers score much better. :-(
(Before somebody jumps at me: It's the same here, sadly.)

As to the substance of your post, maybe I'm dense but I don't see how
"cogito, ergo sum" explains why self-inconsistency is acceptable.

Sometimes I allow my thoughts to leap, and maybe the analogy is poor.
The humanists: I doubt everything, but I need an undoubtable starting
point. Me: There are absolutely no absolutes. (More exactly, I said: The
truth is, there is no truth.) You need to accept an axiom as starting
point to solve both problems. If you think about it, that cogito thing
is an axiom, too.

Stefan

Jim Rosinski wrote:

Actually I didn't mean it that way at all. If my words seemed

Oh! Then I'm sorry. I interpreted your remark as: "Hey, you dumb, you're
not even recognizing that you're inconsitent yourself" or something to
that effect. After all, this is usenet...

patronizing, it was only out of respect for the presumption (based on
some trivial grammar errors and your return address) that English is
not your first language.

Actually, it's not even my second, and I know that I'm far from perfect.
But then, judging by usenet articles, I have my doubts whether many
native English speakers score much better. :-(
(Before somebody jumps at me: It's the same here, sadly.)

As to the substance of your post, maybe I'm dense but I don't see how
"cogito, ergo sum" explains why self-inconsistency is acceptable.

Sometimes I allow my thoughts to leap, and maybe the analogy is poor.
The humanists: I doubt everything, but I need an undoubtable starting
point. Me: There are absolutely no absolutes. (More exactly, I said: The
truth is, there is no truth.) You need to accept an axiom as starting
point to solve both problems. If you think about it, that cogito thing
is an axiom, too.

Stefan

Thomas Borchert wrote in message ...
Jim,

ut my $0.02 says Fox
News is the only game in town for anyone looking for balanced coverage
from TV news.


Bruhaha! OMG! You guys are hilarious.

From "A Measure of Media Bias":

"Our results show a very significant liberal bias. All of the news
outlets except Fox News' Special Report received a score to the left
of the average member of Congress. Moreover, by one of our measures
all but three of these media outlets (Special Report, the Drudge
Report, and ABC's World News Tonight) were closer to the average
Democrat in Congress than to the median member of the House of
Representatives. One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.
These findings refer strictly to the news stories of the outlets. That
is, we omitted editorials, book reviews, and letters to the editor
from our sample."

Complete study can be found at:
http://www.yale.edu/isps/seminars/am...groseclose.pdf

Anyone know of any studies that challenge the assertion that Fox is
centrist?

Thomas Borchert wrote in message ...
Jim,

ut my $0.02 says Fox
News is the only game in town for anyone looking for balanced coverage
from TV news.


Bruhaha! OMG! You guys are hilarious.

From "A Measure of Media Bias":

"Our results show a very significant liberal bias. All of the news
outlets except Fox News' Special Report received a score to the left
of the average member of Congress. Moreover, by one of our measures
all but three of these media outlets (Special Report, the Drudge
Report, and ABC's World News Tonight) were closer to the average
Democrat in Congress than to the median member of the House of
Representatives. One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.
These findings refer strictly to the news stories of the outlets. That
is, we omitted editorials, book reviews, and letters to the editor
from our sample."

Complete study can be found at:
http://www.yale.edu/isps/seminars/am...groseclose.pdf

Anyone know of any studies that challenge the assertion that Fox is
centrist?

Ace Pilot wrote:

One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.

It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

Stefan

Ace Pilot wrote:

One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.

It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

Stefan

One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.

It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

There is a "statistical center" of political views that the Yale study most
likely used to determine their results. This has nothing to do with what
you or I believe, if it's done properly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.

It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

There is a "statistical center" of political views that the Yale study most
likely used to determine their results. This has nothing to do with what
you or I believe, if it's done properly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.

It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

There is a "statistical center" of political views that the Yale study
most likely used to determine their results. This has nothing to do with
what you or I believe, if it's done properly.

All this does is show a statistical center of an opinion, which by
definition is not necessarily correct.

In other words, "Garbage in, garbage out".