Dangerous Cessna evacuates govt again

On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:50:00 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in IWKge.75968$WI3.4920@attbi_s71::

What this CFI did wrong has NOTHING to do with flying, a ...

There was no CFI involved in this incident.

This administration's justification to invade Iran. Or Cananda.

Who wants Canada?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Just idly thinking here after two glasses of wine, but what if =all= the
spam cans in the country formed a line and flew directly over the white
house at 2000 feet with no transponder code and no clearance, and kept
doing it even as we were being shot down? What do you think the
eventual effect of this would be?

How many glasses of wine?

Crikey, imagine what kind of great ideas Jose might come with after a
six-pack!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

The figures I heard were about 4,000 illegal infiltrators a night, and
an estimate of 1-million a year crossing the southern border.

Yeah, I wonder if "Operation Minuteman" (or whatever the heck it's called)
is having any effect?

Or if all the good ole boy volunteers got tired of driving around the
desert, and went home...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:vVKge.75939$c24.26673@attbi_s72...
How many more times do you think it can be allowed to happen before the
FAA/TSA/CIA/Whomever says "Enough is enough" -- and terminates our flight
privileges anywhere near D.C.?

I suspect they look at such events as useful fire drills. The incursions let
them test their procedures under real-life, unplanned circumstances that are
nonetheless benign.

--Gary

Well guys, I have to caveat that. I grew up in Alabama and although I
wasn't here 40 years ago my parents and grandparents were. And there
were certainly places within this country where they couldn't walk
safely at will. Ask Condi's family how free they were to move around
Birmingham at will. Now that I have that out of the way I agree that
things improved in many ways in this country, but that we're currently
regressing at an alarming rate.

Dave

On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:55:50 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
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Those days are gone... Thank a F'ing lot! Bin Ladin!

this was not Bin Laden who brought all those restrictions ... it was ...
well, your own govt. .. but: *ssssshhhhhh!!*

Actually, it was half a dozen assh*les who decided to kill thousands of
innocents by using airplanes as missiles.

So those 19 dead terrorists passed the restrictive laws in this
country? Doubtful.

It was your elected government representatives who panicked, and used
public mass hysteria to enact a lot of stupid restrictions on the
American people in the name of strengthening security at the expense
of untold billions of dollars flowing into the pockets of law
enforcement agencies throughout the land. We've been had by our own
government politicians, in a far worse way than the terrorists could
have accomplished with a thousand fuel laden airliners.


--

All professional philosophers tend to assume that common sense
means the mental habit of the common man. Nothing could be further
from the mark. The common man is chiefly to be distinguished by
his plentiful _lack_ of common sense: he believes things on
evidence that is too scanty, or that distorts the plain facts, or
that is full of non sequiturs. Common sense really involves making
full use of _all_ the demonstrable evidence--and of nothing _but_
the demonstrable evidence. -- Henry Louis Mencken

I think you've got it exactly right, the younger folks don't realize how
much the country has changed in the last 40 years and I'm sad to say not
for
the better. 40 years ago, you, as an american, could walk safely anywhere
in
the world because, as an american, you were respected. That is not the
case
today.

Oh, wait -- you think? Hey, that must be that "worldwide war on terrorism"
they've been talking about on CNN every night!

How soon everyone forgets...THEY attacked US, not the other way around.
Sheesh, wake up, guys. The U.S. hasn't changed -- but the world cultures
around it sure have.

Oh, and BTW: I *was* there 40 years ago, and the U.S. was in a world of
****. We were entrenched in Viet Nam, at the height of the Cold War, and
were entangled in a zillion other little conflicts all over the world, in
our fight against Communism. Our own people were rioting in the streets,
cities were burning -- and this was "better than today"?

NOT.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

If you're referring to criminal guilt ("judge or jury"), do you have a
statute in mind? The FBI has already concluded that since the incursion
was unintentional, no criminal charges will be filed.

I surely hope the FAA takes a firmer stance.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Thu, 12 May 2005 16:06:02 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
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Yeah, I wonder if "Operation Minuteman" (or whatever the heck it's called)
is having any effect?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7725470/
Minutemen end border watch, plan to expand
Gov. Schwarzenegger praises group heading to CaliforniaBy Brock N.
Meeks
Chief Washington correspondent
MSNBC
Updated: 11:32 a.m. ET May 4, 2005WASHINGTON - The month-long
volunteer effort by a grassroots citizen group monitoring illegal
immigration along a desolate 23-mile stretch of the Arizona-Mexico
border ended much as it started: in a war of words.

The so-called Minuteman Project says its nearly 900 volunteers,
some of them armed, were so successful that during April the
border area they monitored witnessed “a 98 percent reduction in
border crossings.” But the number is difficult to independently
verify.

The Minuteman Project also claims it was directly responsible for
the apprehension by U.S. Border Patrol agents of 349 people trying
to illegally enter the United States during the month, according
to Grey Deacon, a spokesman for the project.

During their watch on the border, if Minuteman volunteers ...