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Old October 11th 04, 03:30 PM
John Harlow
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One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.


It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)


There is a "statistical center" of political views that the Yale study
most likely used to determine their results. This has nothing to do with
what you or I believe, if it's done properly.


All this does is show a statistical center of an opinion, which by
definition is not necessarily correct.

In other words, "Garbage in, garbage out".



  #172  
Old October 11th 04, 04:00 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Ace,

Anyone know of any studies that challenge the assertion that Fox is
centrist?


The problem isn't that. It's the underlying assumption that Fox
delivers news.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old October 11th 04, 04:00 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Ace,

Anyone know of any studies that challenge the assertion that Fox is
centrist?


The problem isn't that. It's the underlying assumption that Fox
delivers news.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old October 11th 04, 05:39 PM
C J Campbell
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"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
...


This is the actual language from the actual report (I got it from the BBC,
but the New York Times, Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times also had

it):

"There is an extensive, yet fragmentary and circumstantial body of

evidence
suggesting that Saddam pursued a strategy to maintain a capability to

return
to WMD after sanctions were lifted... "

Perhaps "fragmentary," "circumstantial" and :suggesting" don't quite add

up
to a done deal.


Real researchers use language like that. They know enough to know that they
don't know everything. "Circumstantial," by the way, is the strongest
evidence, contrary to common usage.

Compare the language of real researchers with the complete certitude of
those who have a political agenda.


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Old October 11th 04, 05:39 PM
C J Campbell
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"Henry Kisor" wrote in message
...


This is the actual language from the actual report (I got it from the BBC,
but the New York Times, Chicago Tribune and Chicago Sun-Times also had

it):

"There is an extensive, yet fragmentary and circumstantial body of

evidence
suggesting that Saddam pursued a strategy to maintain a capability to

return
to WMD after sanctions were lifted... "

Perhaps "fragmentary," "circumstantial" and :suggesting" don't quite add

up
to a done deal.


Real researchers use language like that. They know enough to know that they
don't know everything. "Circumstantial," by the way, is the strongest
evidence, contrary to common usage.

Compare the language of real researchers with the complete certitude of
those who have a political agenda.


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Old October 11th 04, 09:56 PM
Gig Giacona
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"Stefan" wrote in message
...
Ace Pilot wrote:

One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.


It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

Stefan

I think if you had read the the previous post you might have been able to
understand that the report used the US Congress as the measuring stick.


  #177  
Old October 11th 04, 09:56 PM
Gig Giacona
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"Stefan" wrote in message
...
Ace Pilot wrote:

One of our measures found that the Drudge Report is
the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.


It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

Stefan

I think if you had read the the previous post you might have been able to
understand that the report used the US Congress as the measuring stick.


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Old October 12th 04, 12:26 AM
Wdtabor
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Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.


It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

Stefan

I think if you had read the the previous post you might have been able to
understand that the report used the US Congress as the measuring stick.


There is an even better measure.

Neal Boortz has offered a $10,000 reward to anyone showing an instance of bias
in a Fox News report (not the opinion shows, the news reports).

It remains unclaimed.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG
  #179  
Old October 12th 04, 12:26 AM
Wdtabor
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Our other
measure found that Fox News' Special Report is the most centrist.


It all depends on where the center is in your frame of reference. (Hint:
Everybody thinks his own view is balanced.)

Stefan

I think if you had read the the previous post you might have been able to
understand that the report used the US Congress as the measuring stick.


There is an even better measure.

Neal Boortz has offered a $10,000 reward to anyone showing an instance of bias
in a Fox News report (not the opinion shows, the news reports).

It remains unclaimed.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG
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Old October 12th 04, 02:07 AM
Paul
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Does anyone remember Bob Edwards on the morning show on NPR?

I used to listen to the guy years ago. Seemed like a real likeable
person and seemed to have a balanced view. Every Friday he would
interview Red Barber, the retired baseball announcer, did it till Red
passed on. Both were the epitomy gentlemenliness. At least it seemed
so to me.

In any event, I believe it was last year, I tuned into Dr. Laura while
driving and Mr. Edwards was on being interviewed about his new book or
some such. I believe the conversation turned to partial birth
abortion and Mr. Edwards expressed a negative view toward the
procedure.

I recall that shortly thereafter Mr. Edwards'
air time was reduced, and within
a very brief period of time he was out on the pretext that they wanted
to bring some fresh "perspectives" to the program. And now, of
course, he is on XM radio
and me being a Sirius subscriber, I no longer hear him.

I think he expressed an opinion that was anathemae to some groups with
influence over at NPR and he was pushed!

So much for freedom of expression and toleration of other views. I
think its
call PC.


Paul D. Hilsenrath

(Jay Masino) wrote in message ...
Jay Honeck wrote:
Was ANY of this reported on CBS/ABC/NBC or my local, Gannett-owned
newspaper? Nope.
Which is why I listen to NPR. It may be liberal in many ways, but they
report the WHOLE truth.


I'm pretty sure I heard the same thing that NPR reported, on several
different CBS/ABC/NBC stations in the DC area.

 




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