"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:kuxgj.25686$Ux2.22866@attbi_s22:

Our culture -- not our religion -- is the only thing preventing IEDs
and suicide bombers in America.

Wow.

You are not who I thought you are, Jay.

I'm saddened, by your stand on this.

I stand by my statement. America is a nation of many religions,
united by one culture. The underlying (or, rather, over-arching)
principles of our constitution were laid out by Christian men,


Nope. Jefferson was definitely an Atheist and the others likely so from all
available evidence

Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in
:

"WolfRat" wrote

Don't you mean our "white" European culture? As politically correct
tyranny continues to force a mongoloid society here in America we
will soon see 3rd word attitudes and fanaticism in our own malls and
streets.

It won't be Muslim fanatics it will be our own home grown terror as
PC tyranny and fascism tightens it's grip.
I just think you are all placing blame and responsibility in the wrong
places.

True, the American way on the most part is away from violence as a
means to influence others. I think that is because that is the
Christian way, and that is the reason it is the prevalent way.

Other than the occasional mentally disturbed murderous kook,


Not a very respectful way to talk about Bush, so I approve.

Bertie

The Christian doctrine were imported from white Europeans.
Our American "culture" is deeply rooted in European
attitudes and religion. Our constitution and founding
documents were based on Christian European values.

We are losing that in the name of greed and PC tyranny and
the mongolization of America driven by PC edicts and one
world idiots.

Obama and the under 30 crowd vote. How many of those under
30 crowd know Obamma is half white? The media does not
mention it EVER. Obama denies his white blood and that's OK?

America is spiraling down like a broke wing Cessna with a
student pilot at the controls. It's just a matter of time
before we go SPLAT

WolfRat wrote in news:QFxgj.1406$dP7.273
@newsfe07.lga:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in
:

"WolfRat" wrote

Don't you mean our "white" European culture? As politically correct
tyranny continues to force a mongoloid society here in America we
will soon see 3rd word attitudes and fanaticism in our own malls
and
streets.

It won't be Muslim fanatics it will be our own home grown terror as
PC tyranny and fascism tightens it's grip.
I just think you are all placing blame and responsibility in the
wrong
places.

True, the American way on the most part is away from violence as a
means to influence others. I think that is because that is the
Christian way, and that is the reason it is the prevalent way.

Other than the occasional mentally disturbed murderous kook,


Not a very respectful way to talk about Bush, so I approve.

Bertie

The Christian doctrine were imported from white Europeans.
Our American "culture" is deeply rooted in European
attitudes and religion. Our constitution and founding
documents were based on Christian European values.


No, they weren;t actually.



We are losing that in the name of greed and PC tyranny and
the mongolization of America driven by PC edicts and one
world idiots.

Obama and the under 30 crowd vote. How many of those under
30 crowd know Obamma is half white? The media does not
mention it EVER. Obama denies his white blood and that's OK?

America is spiraling down like a broke wing Cessna with a
student pilot at the controls. It's just a matter of time
before we go SPLAT


And good luck with that.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


the temp change is almost irrelevant in itself. It;s the Wx changes that
it's going to produce that are the problem.

Also you're going to have to replace florida.


Bertie



Well they can't tell me what the weathers going to be with anything
close to certainty next month why the hell should I believe them when
they say what it will be 10, 20 or 50 years down the road?

As for Florida, I can live with that.

"WolfRat" wrote in message ...

The Christian doctrine were imported from white Europeans.
Our American "culture" is deeply rooted in European attitudes and religion. Our
constitution and founding documents were based on Christian European values.

Yeah, like the idea that slavery is a perfectly acceptable practice condoned by the Bible,
, that if it ain't European it's inferior and worthless, that women and other chattel
don't get to vote, and that earth and its "inferior" inhabitants exist only for the
exploitation of white Christian males. (Add to that the settlers' view that religious
persecution is God's work.)

We are losing that in the name of greed and PC tyranny and the mongolization of America
driven by PC edicts and one world idiots.

The abolition of slavery, complete religious freedom, women's sufferage, the idea that
other cultures have worthy aspects, and evironmentalism used to be radically PC ideas,
too.

Obama and the under 30 crowd vote. How many of those under 30 crowd know Obamma is half
white? The media does not mention it EVER. Obama denies his white blood and that's OK?

Given your bigoted views, I'm surprised that you're not rejoicing in the fact that at
least he's half-white and not right off the boat from inner Africa.

America is spiraling down like a broke wing Cessna with a student pilot at the controls.
It's just a matter of time before we go SPLAT

You augered in the first time you posted here.

Gig601XLBuilder wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


the temp change is almost irrelevant in itself. It;s the Wx changes
that it's going to produce that are the problem.

Also you're going to have to replace florida.


Bertie



Well they can't tell me what the weathers going to be with anything
close to certainty next month why the hell should I believe them when
they say what it will be 10, 20 or 50 years down the road?


Actually, forecasting has become incredibly accurate in the last twenty
years and is getting better all the time, short term certainly. I never
cease to be amazed at how accurate winds aloft are, for the most part,
and terminal forecasting is probably ten times more accurate than it was
even ten or fifteen years ago.

As to the predictions they're making long term, so far the trend seems
to be accurate. More wind, more storms. record highs and lows..

As for Florida, I can live with that.


Mmm me too.

Shame about the everglades, though.

Bertie

Neil Gould wrote:
Recently, Matt Whiting posted:

John Mazor wrote:
"Neil Gould" wrote in message
...
Recently, Bob Noel posted:

In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

Bob,

Denying the theory of evolution is not necessarily anti-science.
I can't see how it isn't.
OK. then we'll just have to disagree

As long as you're clear that you're disagreeing with everyone who
knows what science is...
Which, unfortunately, is a dismayingly small percentage of the
population.

Many think they know but they're completely ignorant of the
principles of the scientific method.
And a dismayingly small percentage of the current population of those
who claim to be scientists. This will become very apparent within a
few decades when all of the global warming, er, global climate change
"scientists" are proven wrong. That will be the biggest setback to
science in our lifetimes.

Do you understand that, historically speaking, many scientific hypotheses
are proven wrong and that doing so is consistent with the scientific
method?

Absolutely. Now if only the evolutionists and global warming fanatics
would come to understand that.

Matt

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Jay,

The religious right in the US scares me almost as much as Islamo-fascism.
In fact, they are two sides of the same coin.


We are indeed in full agreement. And on my birthday, to boot.

If that ain't proof of god... ;-)


Happy birthday! Are you old enough to vote now? :-)

John Mazor wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
John Mazor wrote:

Many think they know but they're completely ignorant of the principles of the
scientific method.
And a dismayingly small percentage of the current population of those who claim to be
scientists.

Wrong, see below.

This will become very apparent within a few decades when all of the global warming, er,
global climate change "scientists" are proven wrong. That will be the biggest setback
to science in our lifetimes.

Please demonstrate that a significant percentage of reputable scientists claim that
increased global warming to catastrophic levels is a dead certain fact and won't admit to
the usual caveats of the scientific method. They may exist but they would be a small
minority. And you're going to need primary sources - media science reporting is
notoriously inaccurate and tries to inflate scientific statements way beyond the
scientist's actual views. We need to see it in their own published material or equally
reliable sources.

http://scienceline.org/2007/02/07/gl...l-uncertainty/

Maybe you don't consider 600 scientists to be significant, but just to
be clear is that what you are saying?


A full, accurate statement that conforms to the scientific method would be along the lines
of "There is mounting scientific evidence that the Earth is experiencing global warming,
that the rate of warming is increasing, that human activity could be contributing to this,
and if this trend continues, it has major implications for life on Earth. While
alternative eplanations exist, they are not as useful in explaining all the observed
data." There is no absolute certainty anywhere in there. Often scientists are guilty of
not reciting the full version because they mistakenly assume that everyone understands the
full but unspoken context of their announcements. But even when they do provide the full
context, it seldom is included in the media accounts because it's not as sexy as some
version of "Scientistists predict the end is near!"

I don't see much equivocation or acceptance of any possible error in
statements such as:

“the question mark was removed behind the debate about whether climate
change had anything to do with human activity on this planet.”

“There is no question that the increase in greenhouse gases are
dominated by human activity…The warming of the climate system is now
unequivocal,”

Can you point out the allowance for error in the above statements?

Matt

In article kuxgj.25686$Ux2.22866@attbi_s22,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Our culture -- not our religion -- is the only thing preventing IEDs and
suicide bombers in America.

Wow.

You are not who I thought you are, Jay.

I'm saddened, by your stand on this.

I stand by my statement. America is a nation of many religions, united by
one culture. The underlying (or, rather, over-arching) principles of our
constitution were laid out by Christian men

Not so.

http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/s...7/secular.html

This is why it so important that we protect and nurture our unique (in the
history of the world) culture, and is why real conservatives (not the
new-fangled religious ones) fight so hard to preserve and protect it. IMHO
it's a delicate thing that could be easily destroyed in a generation or two
if we don't play our cards right.

Yes, but rewriting history doesn't help.

But, hey -- back to the original topic of this post: It looks like Obama is
going to easily beat Hillary in New Hampshire, according to the latest
polls. Quite a surprise.

Not really. Many of the people who were supporting Hillary were doing
so only because they were convinced she would win, and they didn't want
to be left out in the cold when that happened. (This is true of any
front runner. Ask Howard Dean.) In the wake of Iowa, those people now
feel emboldened to abandon her.

rg