ATC speed instructions, wind and altimeter indications

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 02:26:24 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:


What is a spam can? A small aircraft?

Yes.

Named after the metal cans a certain canned meat is sold in.

I would probably say "Cessna 150" :-) Lots of friendships are either made
or destroyed in Cessna 150's :-)

Wade Hasbrouck
PP-ASEL
http://spaces.live.com/wadehas

Emily wrote:
buttman wrote:
A Lieberma wrote:
It's not like you are getting any benefit from simulation since you wont'
get in a REAL PLANE.

now who's the one trolling

It's not trolling, it's frustration.

Then either put him in your kill file, or don't answer him. PLEASE.
You're worse than the disease.

Regards, Kev

Kev wrote:
Emily wrote:
buttman wrote:
A Lieberma wrote:
It's not like you are getting any benefit from simulation since you wont'
get in a REAL PLANE.
now who's the one trolling

It's not trolling, it's frustration.

Then either put him in your kill file, or don't answer him. PLEASE.
You're worse than the disease.

Regards, Kev

He's in MY kill file, but no one else's. Me personally, I've tried
killing threads, but some of them I'd still like to read.

In article om,
says...

Then either put him in your kill file, or don't answer him. PLEASE.
You're worse than the disease.



Go ahead Kev - push it. If it doesn't move, push harder!

He's hijacked the entire group, and you're still defending him on the pretext
that he's "polite". Take a look at the threads - there's nothing left in
rec.aviation.piloting except Mxsmaniac, who has never been in an airplane. He
must be gloating about this insidious victory.

I'm about to check out of here - I'll check back in a few months to see what
you all decided to do about it. . .

GF

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:37:19 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

I presume they know enough about aircraft types to
know how fast or slow they can go?

They usually do. ATC has a computer database of aircraft types that
gives them all the info they need, sometimes including a sample photo,
which can be useful for ground controllers.

Also, I believe the radar information contains ground speed, but I could be
wrong, but knowing the ground speed they can tell if they need you to speed
up or slow down based on where you are at. Was approaching Renton from the
north, with them landing to the north. Was told "Cessna xxxx, Enter
downwind via the East Channel, there is a Cessna just turning crosswind so
could I have you slow up just a bit?" I was doing about 90 kias, with the
tail wind about 100 kts ground speed.

Mxsmanic wrote:
ATC never gives me speed instructions in simulation; how common are
they in real life? I presume they know enough about aircraft types to
know how fast or slow they can go?

Also, don't controllers give wind speed and direction when clearing
someone for take-off? I never get that in simulation, but I could
swear that I've heard it regularly in real ATC.

And another thing: Do controllers provide altimeter settings only in
specific circumstances, or what? Apparently after a handoff from one
center to another they give altimeter settings, but when otherwise?

I don't trust ATC in the simulation much. It provides some practice
but there's a lot missing, and even with the little bit of ATC I've
listened to in real life (years ago--can't easily do it here), I seem
to recall discrepancies.


MSFS is exactly like real life flying. You have said so yourself many,
many times.

Mxsmanic wrote:
ATC never gives me speed instructions in simulation; how common are
they in real life? I presume they know enough about aircraft types to
know how fast or slow they can go?

Sometimes you never hear a speed restriction, some days when
the terminal areas are congested, you hear them continually.
We were coming back from San Jose on United (ATC on 9) and
everybody going into Dulles was getting speed restrictions to
meter things into there.

601XL Builder writes:

MSFS is exactly like real life flying. You have said so yourself many,
many times.

Where?

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

A Lieberma wrote in
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Emily wrote in
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It's not trolling, it's frustration.

Exactly right Emily, thanks for understanding.


Ok, I have only been here for a short time and have come to understand
why everyone dislikes Mxsmanic.

That being said, he usually asks good questions....if not for him, for
the hundreds of people who lurk but have a fear of posting, a fear that
may be fueled by negative replies.

I say if he asks a question you think a student pilot might ask, reply
to the lurkers that have the same question. Maybe Mxsmanic won't get
anything out of it, but someone who truly is interested will.

I understand the frustration, but remember he may ask the question, but
others with the same question may be reading...just a thought.

I say if he asks a question you think a student pilot might ask, reply
to the lurkers that have the same question. Maybe Mxsmanic won't get
anything out of it, but someone who truly is interested will.

I understand the frustration, but remember he may ask the question, but
others with the same question may be reading...just a thought.

As a current student pilot whose learned a good deal reading the
responses to MX's posts, I concur with you 100%.