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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "B.H. Lazard" wrote in message news:hiS0c.160995$uV3.709916@attbi_s51... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:iMR0c.452166$na.1092261@attbi_s04... Why do you call it a "horrible finish". Nobody got hurt and we got to see a cool ejection sequence!! You forgot the little smiley thingy. :-) But assuming you're not joking, for a moment, there a zillion reasons to call it a horrible finish. Hell, just from a taxpayer's standpoint I'm ****ed that we're out $20 million because the guy couldn't set his altimeter correctly. I am not perturbed by a pilot making an honest mistake and wasting a $20 million airplane. That's a cost of 8 cents per person. There are a bunch of thieves running the country, deliberately giving your money to corporate interests. Now THAT is something to be worried about. Are you saying that the government should not buy things from corporations? They bought that jet from a corporation. They bought its fuel from a corporation. They bought its replacement from a corporation. They buy spare parts for it from corporations. They also bought the pilot's flight suit, helmet, oxygen hose, ejection seat, and even socks from corporations. It is hard to imagine who the government would buy things like that from if not corporations. Or do you just have it in for certain corporate interests? Or does he fail to realize that government PRODUCES nothing. |
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Everything you see, touch, use, eat, wear or live in was probably produced
by a corporation and could be produced in no other way. I'm always amused when I hear someone spew back the Democratic Party's line against "corporate interests." Mary and I are a corporation -- and we represent small business in every way. I guess that just makes us mean, old "corporate interests"... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" writes:
The pilot survived, right? His health is fine. His career, I sadly suspect, is not. A comment from one of the ASF people at a CFIRC I was at over the past weekend was that he is now flying a desk at the Pentagon. The same man stated that the problem was that the pilot had become too comfortable with practicing the maneuver at his home base, which was about 800 (+/-; I don't recall the exact number) feet lower than the airfield at which the accident occurred. At the accident location he set up the split-S so that the top was at the proper altitude MSL -- at his home base, meaning that the entire maneuver was executed 800 feet lower than it should have been. I have *no* military jet experience, but especially for airshows I'm somewhat surprised that there isn't an altimeter set to QFE to serve as a sanity check against exactly this sort of problem. Joe Morris |
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"Joe Morris" wrote in message
... "Jay Honeck" writes: The pilot survived, right? His health is fine. His career, I sadly suspect, is not. A comment from one of the ASF people at a CFIRC I was at over the past weekend was that he is now flying a desk at the Pentagon. The same man stated that the problem was that the pilot had become too comfortable with practicing the maneuver at his home base, which was about 800 (+/-; I don't recall the exact number) feet lower than the airfield at which the accident occurred. At the accident location he set up the split-S so that the top was at the proper altitude MSL -- at his home base, meaning that the entire maneuver was executed 800 feet lower than it should have been. I have *no* military jet experience, but especially for airshows I'm somewhat surprised that there isn't an altimeter set to QFE to serve as a sanity check against exactly this sort of problem. Joe Morris Newbie ignorance: What does QFE stand for? Jay Beckman Chandler, AZ Student Pilot 3.2 Hrs ... Nowhere to go but up? |
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Everything you see, touch, use, eat, wear or live in was probably produced by a corporation and could be produced in no other way. Actually major stuff came from sole proprietorship or partnership business. You see, corporations sell the finishing products. Parts within products is bought from sole proprietorship or partnerships business. So, Technically, everything you see, touch, use, eat, wear or live in most likely produced by private business. Only corporations have the power to manipulate financial system. |
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"Toks Desalu" wrote in message news:9541c.166405$uV3.714298@attbi_s51... Everything you see, touch, use, eat, wear or live in was probably produced by a corporation and could be produced in no other way. Actually major stuff came from sole proprietorship or partnership business. You see, corporations sell the finishing products. Parts within products is bought from sole proprietorship or partnerships business. So, Technically, everything you see, touch, use, eat, wear or live in most likely produced by private business. Only corporations have the power to manipulate financial system. You have no idea what you are talking about. The Corporation I work for serves about 100 clients. In many different industries. Number of employees at each range from 3 to around 100. Of our 100 clients only 4 are Sole Props, 10 are LLC (what we here in Arkansas call partnerships and also a type of corporations) and the rest are Corporations. You are under the mistaken assumption that only really big businesses are corporations. This just proves your ignorance on the topic of the economy. GigG |
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You are under the mistaken assumption that only really big businesses are
corporations. This just proves your ignorance on the topic of the economy. "Corporations" and "corporate interests" are code words for "rich guys" and "Republicans". It has nothing to do with reality. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message news:UU31c.12459$id3.7043@fed1read01... What does QFE stand for? QFE is the altimeter setting that will cause the instrument to read zero at the field elevation. It's used a lot in relatively low lying places (like the UK). If you've got some real elevations you run out little numbers in the altimeter to dry to get the proper QFE in there. |
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Jay
QFE QFE is a Q code used by pilots and air traffic control to refer to the current air pressure which will calibrate the pilots altimeter to give actual height above the ground at a particular airfield. Sometimes it's easier to go to Google and type the word or phrase in to get an answer vs asking the group and waiting around for an answer G Big John On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:56:21 -0700, "Jay Beckman" wrote: ----clip---- Newbie ignorance: What does QFE stand for? Jay Beckman Chandler, AZ Student Pilot 3.2 Hrs ... Nowhere to go but up? Jay. Remember what goes up must come down (hopefully under control) G |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
snip still hard to believe that they made such a simple mistake. (The final judgment was that the pilot had set his altimeter incorrectly, resulting in insufficient altitude for the maneuver.) He didn't exactly (allegedly) "set" his altimeter incorrectly. According to Avweb: "The pilot incorrectly climbed to 1,670 feet AGL instead of 2,500 feet before initiating the pull-down to the Split-S maneuver, according to the Air Force news release. The pilot, Chris Stricklin, 31, apparently flew by mistake to the MSL altitude used when practicing the maneuver at his home base, Nellis AFB in Nevada, which is 1,000 feet lower than the Idaho field elevation." Regards, Rob |
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