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Old March 20th 05, 05:23 AM
Mike 'Flyin'8'
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I think there is approach stuff on there... not messed around with
that yet... It does have extended centerlines....

On 19 Mar 2005 21:04:49 -0800, "mark" wrote:

also, does it have approaches, or just the extended runway centerlines?



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Old March 20th 05, 11:38 AM
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:01:36 -0800, Mike 'Flyin'8' wrote:

$35 a monthm or $299 a year. You can just update the database as you
feel it is needed. I will likely only update annually, or prior to a
long XC trip, whichever comes first.


you paid $400 for the whole thing (with a current database, I guess) and
they take $35x12=$420 or $299 for updates?

are these typical prices?

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Old March 20th 05, 11:54 AM
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:01:36 -0800, Mike 'Flyin'8' wrote:

$35 a monthm or $299 a year. You can just update the database as you
feel it is needed. I will likely only update annually, or prior to a
long XC trip, whichever comes first.


you paid $400 for the whole thing (with a current database, I guess) and
they take $35x12=$420 or $299 for updates?

are these typical prices?

#m
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It's not like I'm a terrorist or a hair dresser or anything.
http://www.ensight.org/archives/2005...ion/trackback/


Kind of like buying a printer these days!


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Old March 20th 05, 12:17 PM
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:54:48 GMT, Blueskies wrote:

Kind of like buying a printer these days!


in new printers the first set of ink is usually only half full.

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Old March 21st 05, 01:07 AM
Mike 'Flyin'8'
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No thread hi-jacking :-)

True though... I bought a new laser printer and 2 months later the
toner was empty... I decided to read the manual and what!!!!!! only
good for 100 pages on the provided toner.... Of course a toner
cartridge costs about half the price of my printer... Tight wads...



On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:54:48 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote:


"Martin Hotze" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:01:36 -0800, Mike 'Flyin'8' wrote:

$35 a monthm or $299 a year. You can just update the database as you
feel it is needed. I will likely only update annually, or prior to a
long XC trip, whichever comes first.


you paid $400 for the whole thing (with a current database, I guess) and
they take $35x12=$420 or $299 for updates?

are these typical prices?

#m
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It's not like I'm a terrorist or a hair dresser or anything.
http://www.ensight.org/archives/2005...ion/trackback/


Kind of like buying a printer these days!



Mike Alexander
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See my online aerial photo album at
http://flying.4alexanders.com
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Old March 20th 05, 04:12 PM
Mike 'Flyin'8'
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You misread....

If you wish to reamin current on a monthly basis, you pay the $299.
Me, I could not really care about that. I will just pay the $35 when
I feel it is necessary.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:38:00 GMT, Martin Hotze
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:01:36 -0800, Mike 'Flyin'8' wrote:

$35 a monthm or $299 a year. You can just update the database as you
feel it is needed. I will likely only update annually, or prior to a
long XC trip, whichever comes first.


you paid $400 for the whole thing (with a current database, I guess) and
they take $35x12=$420 or $299 for updates?

are these typical prices?

#m



Mike Alexander
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Temecula, CA
See my online aerial photo album at
http://flying.4alexanders.com
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Old March 21st 05, 08:07 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Martin,

are these typical prices?


Yes. Welcome the the world of the Jeppesen monopoly.

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Old March 20th 05, 05:03 AM
Mike 'Flyin'8'
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Ah.. almost forgot the first part of your question....

You can Downlaod the file and put it on a SD card, or you can just buy
it online and they will send you the SD card. You just return the out
of date SD card....

On 19 Mar 2005 20:45:27 -0800, "mark" wrote:

How do you do database updates? how much are they?

I'm looking for something to replace my anywheremap



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Old March 21st 05, 01:05 AM
Mike 'Flyin'8'
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7 - "What?!? I can't write to the included SD chip!" I powered the
GPS down and removed the included SD Card, which is only 32MB and much
to small to include the obstruction database as well as a customer
map. Should include a 128MB at minimum to be at least a tiny bit
useful. I plugged the SD writer (also included in the box with the
airmap 1000) into MY PC and tried to write my newly generate are
detail map to the SD chip. It did not show up?!?! "Hmmm that is
interesting." Upon further investigation, I find that the included SD
chip is permanently write protected. Still do not know why, but so be
it... What was more odd is the Map generation program acted as if it
had written the data to the SD chip... No indication that the write
had failed. On top of that, the software requires that you "register"
the SD chip to the software. Well I just wasted one registration on a
chip which can not be used. What a load of horse crap.


Correction here.... the SD Chip writer needed a firmware upgrade...
Once I upgraded the firmware, the chip was writable... What can one
really write to a 32MB chip which already has 14MB used up. That
limits me to 28MB.... That is not a lot of room to put the detail maps
for my area on..... That is the bad thing about So Cal.... too much
data for a GPS chip... :-)


8 - "Fine, I will use my Mega SD chip" I pull out my 1GB SD chip and
then read the instructions. I mean afterall, I only have 4
registrations left for SD chips. Good thing I did.... 256MB is the
maximum size the AirMap 1000 has been tested with. So... I do not
have any other chips I can use at this time... They are all used for
cameras, MP3 players etc.... so exploring detailed maps will have to
wait.




Ok... a little update on the SD Chip thing, and some questions for
those that just might know...

I went and purchased a 256MB chip for this AirMap 1000. I thought this
might just slove my problem.... Here is the deal.... Apparently the
Aviation Database provided is locked to a particular SD Chip and you
can not copy the Aviation Database to the larger chip. It seems the
only way around this is to purchase an update from Lowrance and write
the database file to the new 256MB chip... Seems like a load of crap
to me.... Whatever... So I am either limited to the 32MB chip, which I
did figure out how to write to the SD card, or I can pay the $35 to
get the latest Database and write it to my new SD card.

Grrrr.... This flying habit is getting more expensive every day....

Anyone know a way to copy the database file from the 32MB chip to my
new 256MB chip without buying the update from Lowrance?

Mike Alexander
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Old March 21st 05, 01:16 AM
Mike 'Flyin'8'
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:05:39 -0800, Mike 'Flyin'8'
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B chip which already has 14MB used up. That
limits me to 28MB.... Th


Make that 18 MB.... Geesh.... I R Engineer......


Mike Alexander
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