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Nice of you.
Unless you are willing to provide it to us free for years to come, here is my thought: Get a group of people and have have share the cost of one subscription. Burn copied CDs and mail them all. This could save individuals' cost as low as 5 bucks instead of 700 bucks a year. Toks |
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Thank You Sir. Imagine, up to date safety information for free. What a
concept. If you work out something for next year, I'll pony up my share. Al Gerharter "Kyler Laird" wrote in message ... Stu Gotts writes: HA! Won't Boeing/Jepp love that. The industry needs the competition, but we might hear about Kyler's brakes failing while he drives around a slippery mountain curve one day! Another good reason for me to stay in Indiana... --kyler |
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Martin Hotze wrote:
I'd suggest to split up the zip archive. It might be that you won't get the full 2 gigs at a time and have to reconnect (or use gozilla or something similar). having 10 or so parts might help ... I like the zip structure the way it is, but it might be nice to have them split up, too. That way, if you just want one sectional, you don't have to download the whole batch. -john |
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On 2003-11-14 10:31:19 -0800, John said
I like the zip structure the way it is, but it might be nice to have the split up, too. That way, if you just want one sectional, you don't have t download the whole batch And as if by magic, your wish was granted before you even asked http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/...ionals/current |
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Now, if only we could get the vector data. That could make the files a
lot smaller and make it easier to write software to process the data. You could do things like display only airports with long runways or only private airports, or have it not display Victor airways or MOAs -- that'd make certain aspects of it easier to read. Matthew F. G. Kyler Laird wrote: Not long ago, in rec.aviation.student, http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....com&frame=off I learned that the FAA is now selling scanned sectional chart DVDs. http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xm...ctional_Raster |
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Go to the "Current" directory, and download individual sectionals. Al
"John" wrote in message ... Martin Hotze wrote: I'd suggest to split up the zip archive. It might be that you won't get the full 2 gigs at a time and have to reconnect (or use gozilla or something similar). having 10 or so parts might help ... I like the zip structure the way it is, but it might be nice to have them split up, too. That way, if you just want one sectional, you don't have to download the whole batch. -john |
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"Matthew F. G." writes:
Now, if only we could get the vector data. That could make the files a lot smaller and make it easier to write software to process the data. You could do things like display only airports with long runways or only private airports, or have it not display Victor airways or MOAs -- that'd make certain aspects of it easier to read. Roll your own. http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-100/ --kyler |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:19:32 +0100, Martin Hotze
wrote: Kyler Laird wrote: TIFF viewers are widely available so if you just want to grab an image and view/print it you should be all set. I highly recommend http://www.irfanview.com/ it is a free viewer with many many options. Thanks very much, both for the chart TIFF's, Kyler, and the software tip, Martin. Rob -- [You] don't make your kids P.C.-proof by keeping them ignorant, you do it by helping them learn how to educate themselves. -- Orson Scott Card |
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That's really cool Kyler!
Did you ask about reproduction and distribution rights? Just wondering what the other companies like Maptech think about this. Last I talked to them they were scanning the sectionals but the quality was not as good as these, course these are larger. mark "Kyler Laird" wrote in message ... Not long ago, in rec.aviation.student, http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e....com&frame=off I learned that the FAA is now selling scanned sectional chart DVDs. http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xm...ctional_Raster At over $300/year for each of the East and West sets, it sounded like many potential users wouldn't get to touch them. That would be a shame. I've wanted the data for a long time too, so I decided to get it and make it available to everyone. http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/FAA_sectionals/ I'm hoping to provide a bunch of tools to manipulate these (and other) data sets, but that'll take awhile so I'm offering the raw data for now. I'll probably move it around later, but I'll make sure it's easy to find. Note that the East and West data sets only take 2.7GB, so even with the Alaska set, a single DVD has plenty of space for all of this (and the ATA-100 data and an operating system...). Is anyone interested in DVDs like that? I'm thinking that I'll donate these DVDs to Purdue. The Computer Society there makes copies of various CDs as a fund raiser and I'd try to get them to start making DVDs of these data sets if people would pay enough to make it worthwhile. I'll try to get some tools going soon. I'll also be configuring to allow other people to write their own tools on my server and access everything remotely through XML-RPC. Enjoy! --kyler |
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"markm" writes:
That's really cool Kyler! I'm happy to hear you find it useful. There's a lot more data to come. Did you ask about reproduction and distribution rights? http://aviationtoolbox.org/raw_data/...67%20South.htm Acknowledgement of the Federal Aviation Administration would be appreciated in products derived from these data. When product developers or other customers acknowledge the Federal Aviation Administration as the source of the data, the FAA seal or initials cannot be used to imply that a product is endorsed, approved, or authorized by the Federal Aviation Administration. Does everyone agree that I've acknowledged the FAA as the source of the data without implying that they've endorsed, approved or authorized my distribution? I assume that since this data collection is taxpayer-funded, the FAA would like to see it utilized by taxpayers. Their cost of distribution is about $600/year/customer. I can understand that; they have a lot of overhead in order to make this all official and charge people for it. I'm providing quite a different, _very_ unofficial product with dramatically lower overhead - in large part because I'm willing to eat the cost of it instead of maintaining an accounting infrastructure. My hope is that there are people at the FAA/NACO who are thrilled to see this data widely and freely distributed so that more people can take advantage of it. I don't know why anyone would object. Just wondering what the other companies like Maptech think about this. Last I talked to them they were scanning the sectionals but the quality was not as good as these, They're welcome to use these images. While I'm more interested in Free projects and individuals using this data, I don't have any qualms with others downloading the images from me if they do something beneficial with them. course these are larger. There are lots of options for making them smaller. We're all free to experiment now. BTW, I was quite surprised at how many people wanted this data. I've had about 415 machines check out the data, with over half getting at least one TIFF, and a third getting a zipped collection. I've been pushing well over 5Mbps (my limit) continuously. Today the demand really dropped off. There's a dialup user getting a few of the sectionals and someone in Houston just started downloading the entire collection. That's a lot different from having several high-speed users download everything. I just looked into upgrading my bandwidth plan, but I don't think it'll be necessary. I'm only pushing 3Mbps right now. I think everyone is almost satisfied. I'll try to keep the update process efficient so that we don't have to go through this big push again. --kyler |
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