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ArtKramr wrote:
How come you didn't join the Marines and volunteer for the Pacific? The Army Air Corps was a tougher outift that took higher losses. When you joined this was not only uncertain, but being touted as highly unlikely, so don't give us this line of crap about joining because you knew where the toughest action was going to be. The USAAF may have taken more caualties in gross numbers, but the USMC in the Pacific had a much higher percentage rate. Do a google on Tarawa. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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From: (ArtKramr) Date: 9/5/2004 11:59 AM Central Daylight Time Message-id: Why did Bush join the National Guard instrae do the Army, Navy or Air Force? why? Arthur Kramer He DID go into the Air Force. The ANG is a component of the USAF. Now why do you insist on posting off topic rants about a better man than you? Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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ArtKramr wrote:
Bush refused to vounteer. And he did it in writing. You've already been told, by people much smarter than you, that checking the box "I do not request an overseas assignment" was not same as requesting not to go to Vietnam. You can continue your mantra as you see fit though as you no longer have a reputation to trash. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Jack G" Date: 9/5/2004 10:28 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: s1I_c.4926$5Y6.4411@trnddc07 OK Art, tell that to a combat Marine - face to face. If all that happens is he asks you where you fought - and then laughs in your face when you tell him you will be a very lucky man. Jack G. And where did you fight? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: (BUFDRVR) Date: 9/5/2004 11:52 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: ArtKramr wrote: How come you didn't join the Marines and volunteer for the Pacific? The Army Air Corps was a tougher outift that took higher losses. When you joined this was not only uncertain, but being touted as highly unlikely, so don't give us this line of crap about joining because you knew where the toughest action was going to be. The USAAF may have taken more caualties in gross numbers, but the USMC in the Pacific had a much higher percentage rate. Do a google on Tarawa. BUFDRVR Get back to me after you have fought in a real war. You are all ****ed up. The Army AIr Corps had the highest percentage But you fought in neither the AAC or the Mairnes. so what the hell do you know about anything? .. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Thomas J. Paladino Jr. wrote:
And for the record, when a proposal was floated to send F102s to Vietnam, Bush put his name in as a volunteer, however the powers that be decided not to use the plane. For the same record, when he first applied for flying training, he indicated on his application that he did NOT desire an overseas assignment. And he had only 300 flying hours in the F-102 when he volunteered for overseas duty after he had been told that they wouldn't consider anybody with less than 500 hours. It was a pretty safe thing to do.....asking for something you knew in advance they weren't going to give you. That's just for the record, of course. George Z. |
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ArtKramr wrote:
Why did Bush join the National Guard instrae do the Army, Navy or Air Force? why? At that time, TANG was a safe place to baby sit the children of privilege who were burdened by poor scores on military aptitude tests. I don't fault Bush's parents for buying their kid's way into the champaign squadron. It's important that the best and the brightest conserve their genes for future generations. Can you imagine the disaster if the shrub had been given hazardous duty which caused him to be disabled or killed before having the chance to breed and produce equally brilliant offspring? Where would we be without Jenna and Barbara? Cheers --mike Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Jack G wrote:
OK Art, tell that to a combat Marine - face to face. If all that happens is he asks you where you fought - and then laughs in your face when you tell him you will be a very lucky man. Jack G. Just for the record, Jack, during WWII, the 8th Air Force sustained more casualties over Europe than the entire United States Marine Corps did world-wide throughout the entire war. If you don't believe me, just ask Google the right questions and they'll provide the same answer that I just did....I know because I've already done it. George Z. |
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: Mike Dargan Date: 9/5/2004 12:31 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: rQJ_c.36777$3l3.28824@attbi_s03 ArtKramr wrote: Why did Bush join the National Guard instrae do the Army, Navy or Air Force? why? At that time, TANG was a safe place to baby sit the children of privilege who were burdened by poor scores on military aptitude tests. I don't fault Bush's parents for buying their kid's way into the champaign squadron. It's important that the best and the brightest conserve their genes for future generations. Can you imagine the disaster if the shrub had been given hazardous duty which caused him to be disabled or killed before having the chance to breed and produce equally brilliant offspring? Where would we be without Jenna and Barbara? Cheers --mike I think about Bush and am glad he was never around to fight with the 344th although he would have gotten out of combat missions by hook or by crook. especially crook. The resrves was the standard hiding place for the neocon rich, and poweful. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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